Polls overwhelmingly for taxing rich to pay for deficit, and reject cuts to social programs.

[Cal33]

This is the time to overwhelm our senators and congressmen with phone-calls,
emails and letters to let them know that this is what we want. Let those
congresspeople owned by the rich know that their jobs depend upon their
cooperating with US -- for a change -- NOT WITH THE CORPORATIONS.

At 80+ percent, WE HAVE THE NUMBERS, we have the power. Neocon and Neocon-leaning
politicians respond to only 2 things: Money and power. Nothing else. When they
realize that we have the power to take away their jobs, they will respond.

Let's try to contact as many people as possible and ask them to join in writing
their congresspeople. Let this become a NATIONAL MOVEMENT. If we let this
golden opportunity pass by, it might be ages before we have another one like it.

LET'S NOT MISS THE BOAT THIS TIME!!


http://www.thinkprogress.org/2011/03/03/polling-deficit-republicans/

[still_one]

1. Then why were the midterms so bad for the Democrats? /nt

[Cal33]

3. One possible explanation: Many Democrats don't know how to

unite. It's more or less in the nature of Democrats to go their own ways.
Liberals are not authoritarian in their mental outlook. But we must
unite as one during certain important times, and it behooves us to be
aware of it, when these times are at hand.

[xchrom]

6. because democratic leadership is not opposed to austerity and the people know it.

kinda lets the enthusiasm out of the balloon.

[Cal33]

14. I have nothing against austerity if the situation really calls for it, but I am against austerity

if the reason is to make the super-rich still richer. This is insanity!

[bobbolink]

18. How much austerity is enough? I live in my car, is that enough austerity, or do I need to keep

sacrificing?

There is a DUer who will die from a curable disease because he can't get the health care. Is that enough austerity or does he need to sacrifice more?

I could go on and on and on... but WE don't have a voice... the SACRIFICE will be demanded of us.

And the deaths will go unreported.

[Cal33]

41. You are correct. The sacrifice you are making is not necessary at all. There is

more than enough wealth in our country for every single individual in it.
But the super-rich are manipulating things by hook and by crook, so that
they get most of the wealth, and at the expense of the rest of the nation.
These crooked super-rich are the criminals of our generation.

I've read that one-hundredth of one percent of the top-earning people own
as much wealth as the lower-earning half of the nation. In short, 10
thousand of the wealthiest own as much wealth as 150 million people
of the entire nation.

And the horrible thing is that they are still not satisfied. They are
doing their best to rip off still more from the people.

The question arises, why are they doing this? They certainly have more
than they can ever spend. Just take a guess. My guess is that they
want to own and control the entire country. They want to be the
over-lords of the nation, and they want the rest of us to serve them at
their pleasure.

I am saddened to hear that you have been financially strapped to such a
state that you have to live in your car. And some others are in still
worse conditions. Many have already died in poverty and misery.

Yes, your sacrifice is being forced upon you by the super-rich, who are
out to remake our nation from a democracy into a dictatorship.

I don't agree with you that "we don't have a voice," Many in this forum
and elsewhere already are doing their bit to fight these criminals. It's
not going to be easy. The road ahead is tough. But we're not giving up.

[bobbolink]

50. I'm not worried about the super-rich. We badly out-number them.

What I am worried, and despair, about is the middleclass and "progressives" who continually forget about us, and only think of themselves when its time to vote or protest.

[Cal33]

51. It does worry me that our nation might turn into a dictatorship.

[bobbolink]

52. What you're not getting is that poor people are worried about much more immediate things.

But I'm guessing that just isn't going to matter to you.

I wish you had been willing to hear what I said to you,but..... that is WHY I am NOT worried about the very-rich.. I am worried about middleclass people like you who can't see us right next to you.

[Cal33]

53. You are right. Those in misery can't help but worry about much more immediate

things.

[bobbolink]

54. Yes. Thank you.

[calimary]

36. Another explanation - the Dems don't have the lockstep media messaging, OR the media

outlets anymore. There are TOO many Dems who are just plain NAIVE. How many times have you heard - "the American people will KNOW! The American people will see that our idea is better because ... etc etc etc."

NO, THEY WON'T. They just WON'T.

They have to be told, reminded, nagged, and taken by the hand and led. They will NOT just magically know or understand or even believe any Democrats' views, assuming they're exposed to any). The Dems don't have the microphones. We've got Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz and Cenk Uyger and basically that's about it as far as high-profile liberals connecting the dots and teaching on the air and breaking through the crap that's spewed (yeah, SUUUUUURE - Anderson Cooper "Keeping them Honest" - what a JOKE!) and gaining any ground in the ratings. Compare that to the MONSTROUS media machine that's hellbent on advancing the CONs' agenda. They have entire 24/7 cable networks - including a business-oriented one now. We have an occasional voice here and there. They have billionaires armed with the Citizens United ruling. We have bake sales.

I saw Naomi Klein on Rachel's show, and she had a BRILLIANT (as usual) metaphor: (paraphrasing)

"This is like a war in which one side just got nukes. And now they're going after the slingshots that the other side still has."

As long as the American people are media-fed only one side, and lots of it, our Dems are IDIOTS to assume that the people will "just KNOW!" They WON'T. They know what they're told, force-fed, and propagandized about over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, especially with the slick fancy packaging brought to you by crazed blowhards and blonde bimbos with heavy makeup and thick lips.

[Cal33]

44. Yes. I agree with you. The Repubs. own 90% of the news media, and they

have been making good use of this advantage for the past century. They
have successfully brain-washed much of America with their lies.

The Dems. have to practically start from scratch to catch up. Al Gore
started his "Current TV" in 2005, and Keith Olbermann will be broadcast
from there in late spring. I did not even hear of "Current TV" until
a few weeks ago. Most people haven't either.

Dems. simply have to start more radio talk-shows, TV stations, newspapers,
magazines, etc....

The Repubs. have planned this a century ago!! So, they are ahead! Way,
way, way ahead !

[madrchsod]

5. the progressive democrats did`t lose that much...

it was the blue dogs that took the hit. add in the fact that history was on the rethugs side and the president could`t find a message or did`t care

[socialist_n_TN]

9. And this is the crux of the matter.............

That's also why you're seeing a STRONGER presence among Dems now. Most of the DINOs are gone, leaving only real Dems. And the few who might be inclined to waffle and try being Rep Lite have a spinal infusion by all the rest.

[still_one]

29. Russ Feingold? /nt

[jtown1123]

45. I was reading Feingold voted against an emergency COLA

stimulus payment because he was trying to be "austere" and seniors never forgave him. He obviously regretted it I am sure.

[Edweird]

11. What side was Obama on in Central Falls? Therein lies your answer.

[Martin Eden]

24. Lack of leadership at the top

Obama repeatedly failed to stand up for core Democratic principles and forcefully draw the line -- which should have been drawn at extending the Bush tax cuts.

The result was that teabagging repukes were allowed to frame the issues and write the narrative. The voter enthusiasm that put Obama into the White House was gone.

[Cal33]

43. For a long while I was hoping that he might have a special plan

up his sleeve with his apparent willingness in appeasing the Repubs.
Now I'm about ready to give up this wishful thinking of mine.

[Marr]

26. Blue Dogs were the losers. Still, the Democratic Party has made a point of avoiding

class issues for decades now. That's why we're in the shape we're in.

[readmoreoften]

38. Because the Democrats are so weak and right wing that all they don't bother voting.

The Republicans trust their politicians and are very vocal. The majority of working America don't trust the Democrats because they're constantly cutting deals with the plutocrats in an attempt to find a "third way." This nation is not right wing. The right are just the only people in America who have representation--mostly because elections are little more than theatre at this point.

[Lorien]

39. You know why: dems squandered their mandate. They had the majority and blew

it. The blame lies with the Dem leadership for not leading like Democrats. People are fed up with being told that they MUST vote for the lesser of two evils. They want someone to vote for who represents OUR interests, not those of the uber rich and corporations.

[jmowreader]

46. Republicans are better at campaigning than Democrats are

They ran on the premise they had The Way to return us to fiscal sanity. They of course forgot the part about us BEING in a state of fiscal sanity before we had eight years of Republican leadership, but that's okay. Now they get a chance to totally FUCK the country.

[Cal33]

47. I don't think they campaign better. But they do have the advantage of owning 90%

of the news media, which certainly helps them to spread their lies.

[Rex]

60. You know why. Obama and Biden pissed off a large chunk of their

base by calling the 'dirty fucking hippies' and the professional left just need to stfu and sitdown! And that is exactly what most of them did. That is why, oh and that crazy people like to vote for Teabaggers. Can't explain that one.

[msongs]

2. our elected "leaders" are so far behind the public it's practically criminal nt

[Cal33]

7. This is the time to let them know through our actions that we

demand change in and from them. Agreed? Right now we have
the numbers. Are we going to make use of this golden opportunity?

[badtoworse]

4. The only polls that count are the ones taken on election day.

Sorry, but that is political reality.

[Cal33]

8. True. But the threat of the possiblity of being voted out might just help things a bit.

[Bandit]

10. And those were the exact opposite of these polls.

:shrug:

[Cal33]

12. More Americans are waking up from their state of lethargy, perhaps?

[Poboy]

13. r'd!

[Cal33]

49. Thanks.

[bobbolink]

15. Unfortunately, Barack is TONE DEAF

[Cal33]

16. I think he will listen if the vast majority of us make our voices heard - loud and clear.

[bobbolink]

19. When will that happen?

[Cal33]

20. When both houses pass the bill. Do you think Obama would veto that bill?

I doubt it. It's up to us to see to it that both houses do pass the bill.
We have the numbers to do it this time.

[bobbolink]

21. Well, that will be just a tad too late, now, won't it?

But then, we poor folk understand only too well that our deaths mean nothing to the middleclass.

[Marr]

27. He's not tone deaf. He does not want you.

In fact, he pretty regularly makes an effort to piss on the non-wealthy in an attempt to prove he's worthy of Wall Street campaign cash.

[uponit7771]

35. He constantly fights are overwhemingly progressive congress too hunh? You guys are obvious now...

[Marr]

37. HALF the Congress. And it's only just turned Republican.

What do you mean by, "you guys are obvious", by the way?

[uponit7771]

33. The people who complain at the president instead of congrerss are missing ears

[Lorien]

40. No, it's worse than that. He's complicit.

Anyone who refuses to fight for unions, the poor, the middle class, and the environment is NOT a Democrat-especially when the vast majority of Americans want him to do just that!

Obama behaves as if the teabaggers are his only constituents. Does he plan to not run again? Does he expect that corporate cash will buy him the office again? Does he know that the machines are rigged? He wouldn't wave off those kinds of numbers if the fix weren't in.

[socialist_n_TN]

17. This should be pounded home by ALL OF US............

ALL OF THE TIME!

It's criminal that tax increases on the wealthy are almost NEVER brought up and when they ARE brought up they're shot down or ignored immediately. They can't ignore us if we bring it up again and again until they are FORCED to attempt to answer this simple question. WHY cut programs for the poor and the working class while giving millionaires and billionaires tax breaks? It's a simple question that resonates and DEMANDS an answer.

[Name removed]

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[Cal33]

23. Some people don't realize that many corporates, in particular,

have been skinning the American people of their money alive. It's about time that at least
a portion of the ill-gotten gains be made use of to reduce our nation's spending deficit
and debt.

Our present system continues to allow these super-rich to rob the American people. Isn't
it about time to stop theses crime? They are being legally allowed, because the congress
people who have been bought by the corporations have made it legal. But morally it is
still a crime.

Example: Insurance companies refusing to pay for a patient's treatment for any number
of reasons, including "a pre-existing condition." Many patients have died. Does it
bother the ruling of the person who made the Ins. Co.'s decision? Hardly. These people
are without conscience, and many such people are found in such positions, because their
lack of a conscience serves them well doing such work.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

28. "significant portion... who believes and individual's wealth actually belongs to that individual"

As opposed to us dirty librul communists who don't have no respect for the sacrosant right to private property and can't grasp the infinite wisdom of Ayn Rand. :eyes:

[Raksha]

31. No, an individual's wealth DOES NOT belong to that individual

if it was stolen from other individuals to begin with!!! The figures on income inequality don't lie, and more and more people are waking up every day. There is a major backlash brewing in this country, and our elected representatives would have to be deaf and blind not to notice.

[Hannah Bell]

25. kr

[bvar22]

30. I see what your problem is.

You still believe that the overwhelming majority of The American People means something to our politicians.
It doesn't.
Both parties are run by a handful of RICH people,
and what gets the top 2% MORE MONEY is ALL that matters.
QED



Who represents THIS American Majority?

Their words, promises, or excuses mean NOTHING.
"By their WORKS you will know them."

[Cal33]

42. Life is rarely, if ever, "either/or." It's more often "both/and." I still believe

that if politicians are threatened with the loss of their jobs by an overwhelming
majority of their constituents, most of the politicians would yield to their demands.
Wouldn't you agree?

[uponit7771]

32. FACTS SUCK!!!

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Kick and Recommend!

[Cal33]

58. Many thanks..

[Fire Walk With Me]

59. You're welcome (a kick in itself back to the top of the forum).

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

48. see what they are doing there in Wisconsin

Anyone seen the Eminem Mosh video?

[bobbolink]

55. ****************Please See This Thread!!*****************

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x575072

Lots of info, sample letters, and addys!

It includes Amy Goodman and Rachel, because our "progressive" media are NOT talking about this, hence we DON'T have large numbers of people fighting this.

Please... HELP!

Thank you.

[Cal33]

56. Hi Bob: I think you would reach far more people, if you were to

rewrite this in a new thread of your own. This is a very good thread, too.

[bobbolink]

57. It would get responses if people would respond.

I can stand on my head and wave my feet in the air, too... but if people don't care to actually DO anything, they won't.

What about you?