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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:11 PM Original message |
"Administration officials said they saw the events (protests) beyond Washington as distractions ..." |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. "...as distractions" to the SOTU. 6 day old news. It's called "message control". What of it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Wrong. 3/8/11: "SEIU Chief: Obama ‘Has Stepped Up’ in State Labor Fights" (video & transcript) |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Really? Because that seems to be in direct contradiction |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Did you read the entire article? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I love how when you talk about the OP it's all |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Splitting hairs doesn't change the fact that the leader of SEIU praised the President. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Found his shoes then? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Funny how not one labor leader has complained about President Obama. Quite the opposite. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Don't think they don't complain in private...They just don't want a repuke to take his place in '12. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. LOL! Provide proof of your claim. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
111. LOL yourself...I don't have to, .it's common freaking sense. n/t |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
120. what people say in public is a helluva lot different than what they |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
112. The shoes are only for decorative purposes |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Wow, I am amazed at your statement. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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lldu (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Win the Future? Don't you have to win the states before you |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Every SOTU has a theme. "Win The Future" was this year's SOTU theme. |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. What a sad statement - SOTU is just like Senior Prom |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. If you ever become President, you can change that American tradition. |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
75. Fat chance of that |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Yes...."Do not ruin the prom for the homecoming king"! |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
73. Actually, he's acting more like the queen |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. That is the most awesome post I have ever read on DU |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Awesome post! |
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jannyk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Wow, Awesome!!!! |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. I tip my hat to you |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. Hate to tell you, but the outdated story the OP refers to is all about the SOTU via its "tagline". |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
116. spin spin spin.... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Please promise you won't hate me but |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
85. You didn't pull any punches. It tells the truth. Well written. Thanks. |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
98. That was awesome |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #98 |
108. And... deleted why??? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:59 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I hope someone saved it. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, events (which include protests, revolutions, wars, stupid GOP politics, etc, etc) |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's Obama's problem. He thinks you can train Repubs with affirmation only. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. You're wrong. Here's proof ---> |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. More like "Why fight 'em when you can join 'em?" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
92. Since when have Republicans joined any legislation that Pres. Obama has pushed for? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
100. bingo |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. Since they didn't say who the admin officials are - I call the article BS. n/t |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Right. Sure. Of course. It was all made up! Thanks for the info! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. The WH is clueless to want message control just prior to a SOTU? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. There'll be pie in the sky, when we die by and by. Fuck win the future. I |
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speltwon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I want to bestride them like a colossus of yore! nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. From The Nation March 3 by Ari Berman. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Mmmmm, creamy bipartisan-y goodness! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. So the White House caved in to John Boehner's demand. Nothing new. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. There's zero proof of Ari Berman's media whore "gotcha" spin. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Another 6 day old story? Ari Berman's spin has zero proof to back him up. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. Kick |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. Now I know why the DNC only talked to me about Obama when they called |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. It's going to be a long time before I will give actual $ to any Democrat again. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I'm sure the Koch Brothers will be delighted to hear it. Citizens United will prevail! |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Well you can make up for my not paying donations if it bothers you so much. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. The Koch Brothers are delighted you too have decided not to donate to Democrats in an election year. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
67. Forget Obama. He's useless. Donate to the ActBlue recall. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
22. k&r |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oh, that'll play well in Wisconsin, Ohio, and all the other states where union members |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. LAT:"Obama, speaking out on Wisconsin labor standoff, says public employees should not lose rights" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Of course!....You didn't think they cared about us, did you? |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. That is indeed |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #40 |
110. Yes, it looks like that to me...Some here continue to be "true believers" though, lol. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Yeah, that's why President Obama issued a veto threat today against a GOP initiative. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. You're conflating what was never said by the WH. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
121. How will we ever know |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. The working class doesn't live in a bubble like the WH does. Real life isn't Fantasyland. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Millions of old, new, independent and former republican voters are now a distraction? |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. I give up. It's time to come up with another plan. n/t |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. So Obama voters (myself included)- Fighting for your rights is seen as "a distraction" by this admin |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. +1 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
83. Um, no. You're conflating again. The WH never said that. |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. Less buzzwords and slogans, more progress. There's no substance to this administration. nt |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Winning the future. That was a stupid title for the Newt Gingrich book and |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. There never was. He was a marketing campaign. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
82. There's no substance to your rhetoric and I can prove it with FACTS --> |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
54. I heard about this. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. Okay, I'm not going to even say what I am thinking. |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. What a disappointment. It's like we're all alone in this thing. It seems like Obama |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. It's a "disappointment" that the WH wanted message control prior to the SOTU? |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. I disagree with Obama's inaction on this issue, as is my right. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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Denzil_DC (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. Maybe ask yourself who benefits from spreading this meme right now |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
91. "if you can't identify the immediate enemies, you're really lost." That's true. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. Unrecing "revised" version as well. |
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Denzil_DC (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yup, it's deja vu all over again all over again! n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Pres. Obama is not to blame for the FUBAR in WI that voters there enabled with the last election. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Oh, it's a "blame the voters" day. I suppose that means tomorrow will be a |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. No, it's called a fact. Pres. Obama is not to blame for voters' stupid choices last November. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. It's called a straw man, actually. I haven't blamed him for last November's election. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Convenient of you to say so now that your original comment has gone poof! |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Apparently, your memory and logic are evenly matched. n/t |
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drokhole (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. You never know, we could have "won" the future by 2012 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Did you even bother to listen to the SOTU? I somehow doubt it. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. "win the future" always makes me think "because we're losing the present". |
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drokhole (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yeah, because turning a blind eye is super "optimistic" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. What has this got to do with the WH wanting message control right before a SOTU? |
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drokhole (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Because it's not just "message control," it's their actual mentality... |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
86. Hey Obama - The future has changed! Remember change? You used to talk about it. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Yeah, what has he done in the past two years? Here are the FACTS ---> |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I'm not talking about the past 2 years, I am talking about the present - what is going on right at |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Do you want him to make another statement? |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
94. I'm glad he stayed out of this |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Not all of the people of Wisconsin. Their fight is my fight. |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
99. Has anyone read the linked to article? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Again? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Yes, it has to do with the article....those are admin's words. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. The OP title is misleading. Unnamed sources talked about message control prior to the SOTU. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. I think the title, article, and 45 recs say it all actually - we are seen as distractions by them |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #99 |
114. White House "angrily" quashes DNC support of labor protests: says events beyond DC a "distraction" |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
113. you are SOOOOOOO slacking BBI |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
115. workers are just "distractions" from Obama's PR games.... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. +1 |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
117. They see the American public as distractions. |
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