EMERGENCY! Defend Wisconsin GO TO THE CAPITOL NOW!

[Snoutport]

DefendWisconsin Defend Wisconsin
EMERGENCY: Repub. Senators to split Budg Repair Bill and vote on the union-killing things TONIGHT. Everyone to the Capitol NOW

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Ok I am on the twitter they do that

it is gonna get really ugly really fast.

[Hannah Bell]

62. your last two predictions of imminent violence didn't materialize. maybe the third time's the charm.

or not.

[Snoutport]

69. I'm angry

but not enough for violence. But it sure must feel good to be at these protests with firemen and policemen and teachers standing right there with you!

[PatrynXX]

105. Kinda thinking

they'll accidentally pull a Kent State.. someone steps on a firecracker and the capitol police think they hear gunfire and start shooting into the crowd. then that would be ugly

[PatrynXX]

107. Kinda like this one liner

my bad :P

Republicans playing Russian Roulette in WI with a 5 bullets in a 6 shooter. Trampling on workers rights during a major unemployment crisis. Dumb. Really dumb.

[Codeine]

113. *snort*

:spray: Well played.

[PatrynXX]

102. Ugly yes. but mostly from the right

see if they use those 2nd amendment remedies to shoot down the protesters who are peacefully protesting

[Name removed]

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[tavalon]

130. Check out the feed

http://www.livestream.com/theuptake

The Capitol has been taken by the protesters but they are behaving well. Scott Walker is throwing a tantrum but then, that's no surprise. He tried to get the state police to remove the protesters by any means possible. They declined. The protesters are keeping the building tonight. And there have been calls for a statewide general strike but since this just happened, I'm not sure that's official yet, but it sure should be. I'll be wearing red to work tomorrow night and I'll admit, I'm nervous about a national general strike call but if it happens, I'll be there.

[Snoutport]

134. Wow...thank you police! But if they get rid of the union police then Walker would

have an army of non-union police at his disposal.

[joeunderdog]

2. What Assholes.

Where did our Democracy go?

[itsrobert]

13. +1

AND KICK

[Citizen Worker]

42. The final nail in the coffin of what passes for democracy in the US was driven into body politic

when the criminal supreme court selected Bush for president and we stood quietly. We did it to ourselves when we failed to stand up to this theft.

[Snoutport]

51. I agree with you...it was a coup and we watched it on tv and stayed home.

[Tumbulu]

116. Those were my thoughts exactly

But hope springs eternal and maybe we can get it back.

[Snoutport]

136. just imagine what today would be like if we had stood up.

shameful day for me :0(

[vanboggie]

124. Yes, I totally agree

and I'm still angry.

[vanboggie]

125. Dupe n/t

[jwirr]

127. And we failed to see that the funeral was for us. I wonder what the

supremes are thinking now a days. The only job they had was to protect the constitution and they failed big time.

[neoralme]

159. Yep. That was the defining event. The game-changer. Kind of knew

it then.

[Kingofalldems]

3. Keep this kicked

[KharmaTrain]

4. How Can The Senate Vote Without A Quorum

...why the Wisconsin 14 took off in the first place. Sure this is the Senate or the House?

[Scuba]

7. They don't need a quorum if it's not a fiscal issue.

[Enthusiast]

144. If, according to the GOP, this is not a fiscal issue

why do they want to strip unions of their rights?

[Snoutport]

155. were they under oath?

i wonder if their testimony that this isn't a fiscal issue etc. was under oath?

[Snoutport]

12. they are taking the bargaining part of the bill and voting on it

they are saying it is not a fiscal matter so they are going to vote to end bargaining as a separate bill.

[Jackpine Radical]

27. They need a 3/5 quorum for fiscal legislation

but only a simple majority quorum for other bills. By splitting the union stuff off from the rest of the bill, they make it non-fiscal & have enough Reptilians to form a quorum.

[alstephenson]

93. Yet they claimed that eliminating collective bargaining was necessary to balance the budget = fiscal

I guess they want to have it both ways. Surprise!

[Snoutport]

95. they can't even keep to one lie! they are lying about the lies about their lies at this point!

[JDPriestly]

110. The recall will be much more important to working people

and other people who do not like this level of corruption if this anti-union measure passes.

[malaise]

5. Get this to Rachel NOW n/t

[rzemanfl]

6. K & R. General strike next? eom

[socialist_n_TN]

61. This would be my thought..........

They seem bound and determined to bring this to a total boil. It needs to burn them severly. STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!

[itsrobert]

8. KICKING EVER 2 MINUTES.

I'M KICKING THIS EVERY TWO MINUTES IF NOT ON TOP ALREADY.

[MrMickeysMom]

80. I'll see your two and raise you one for the next few...

motherfuckers...

[steve2470]

9. k&r nt

[hwmnbn]

10. Do they have a quorum?

I thought that was the only thing holding them back.

[pacalo]

117. See #27 above by jackpine.

[Scuba]

11. I can't get there tonight. I'll go tomorrow.

[flamingdem]

14. kick

[handmade34]

15. if only I could....

[Lefta Dissenter]

16. SHIT

isn't that what I just said??? (I know, different thread, so who cares?)

FUCK them. I'm sick in bed, I've been at the Capitol every day that I have not been sick. I can't even speak because of a flu or cold or whatever that has left me with NO VOCAL CORDS.

That's not enough, they want to TAKE MY FUCKING VOICE FOREVER???

ASSHOLES.

[Snoutport]

18. take care of your voice :0 )

You'll need it in the weeks to come!

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Stay in bed

[magdalena]

71. I totally just read your comment in the other thread

and silently agreed with you.... and now minutes later here we are. Disgusting.

[Lefta Dissenter]

89. Just got a call from the Dem party

but I couldn't even answer loudly enough for them to hear that anyone was on the line.

My S.O. went down to the Capitol as soon as we got the news - crowd is building there.

I feel so helpless. :cry:

[magdalena]

90. You sound like you've done lots already!

The best thing you can do is get better and rest up to fight again! Get well soon! :hi:

[Snoutport]

91. helpless...

send them 10 bucks. if every person who feels helpless and has ten bucks laying around sent it to the recall people...well, that would be a whole lot of helpfulness! (i already sent ten bucks...it was all i could afford)

[barbtries]

142. get well

you will be needed, and you will need to be healthy.

[Enthusiast]

145. I hope you are

feeling better this morning. Assholes!

[Lefta Dissenter]

151. Thanks Enthusiast

I'm out of bed, at least, but the laryngitis is complete. :(

I can tell I'm going to need more noisemakers!

If nothing else, this gives me some good ideas for my sign for Saturday.

[Tippy]

17. Kick this, then kick them OUT......

I have my candel lit......

[TBF]

19. He is going to be recalled -

only question is how much he can do in one year with the Koch Bros. backing him up.

[itsrobert]

20. KICK

kick

[Jackpine Radical]

33. He'll be somewhat neutralized if the 8 vulnerable Rs are recalled.

That would give the Dems a majority in the Senate & can happen in a few months.

[TBF]

37. That's some relief -

I know my mom (elderly) is worried about her Badgercare (she has some sort of supplement to help with medications)

[Jackpine Radical]

49. Badger Care is an extension of Medicaid.

Walker has proposed to severely restrict access to Badger Care & limit what it covers. An estimated 55,000 people would lose health coverage if the bill goes through. I'm not sure but I think that one would require the 3/5 quorum instead of the simple majority which is all they need for simple union-busting.

[MrMickeysMom]

83. The People Should Never Forget this...

... Think they will?

[Snoutport]

85. yes

but not for a while. they are certainly making strong democrats out of a lot students.

[Enthusiast]

146. The ones stupid

enough to have voted for Walker in the first place?

[Snoutport]

152. some of those people in the middle

must be very very very very sorry right about now.

[Snoutport]

171. i sure hope!

the tractors...anyone heard about the tractors?

[Snoutport]

72. THey will act like locusts and descend on everything at once.

I shudder to think how much damage they can do in a year.

[Vadem]

21. Kick!!! K&R...n/t

[Chris_Texas]

22. up

[Blue Owl]

23. Walker ain't too bright, is he

The PEOPLE are gonna have something to say to this college cheater-turned-dictator.

[Imajika]

47. Actually he was stupid not to do this sooner...

He has allowed Democrats and union workers in Wisconsin and all over the country to get organized and mobilized. It was a dumb strategy.

Many teabaggers have been pleading with him to do this all along, and Democrats had been worried about this strategy from the beginning.

By allowing his opposition so much time to get energized and engaged in the fight, Walker severely weakened his hand.

Now the GOP will likely pass their union busting bill, but the entire episode will leave such a bad taste that he and the Republicans may well be doomed to recall or defeat in the upcoming elections.

[Snoutport]

74. He had to keep his promises to Koch

He took the republican strategy against the unions but then added all the extra favors to the koch brothers... he figured it would go through so fast nobody would see all the dictatorship moves he was making.

[barbtries]

147. he certainly tried not to

he introduced the bill with hardly any time to spare until the dems had to flee the state because almost nobody even knew what was in it. and now this. he could not do this sooner as hard as he tried. it's not stupid, it's democracy. he was flummoxed by democracy.

[TBF]

24. keep it on top

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[DearAbby]

29. kick

[Drale]

26. If you want change you must be prepared to do what is necessary

I am NOT calling for violence, but I believe the time has come to step it up a notch. The building must be surround and power, phone and internet must be cut. Elected officials must not be allowed out of the building until they drop this matter completely. Some might say it is amount to kidnapping, but drastic times call for drastic measures. This is going to end in blood if something is not done soon.

[rucky]

28. and bring torches and pitchforks

shit, man. this is a low blow - even by repug standards.

[Jackpine Radical]

The new equivalent of torches & pitchforks is

smartphones, ipads & video cameras.

[TBF]

38. All sound good to me - especiallly those cameras. Get the pics out on facebook.

[pacalo]

118. +1. Great comment.

[pacalo]

119. My post at #118 was meant for you.

[ReggieVeggie]

30. kickity

[8 track mind]

31. This seems like a last ditch attempt for union busting..... n/t

[TBF]

34. it's been about the union-busting all along -

the old union guys like my dad called it from day one

[Jackpine Radical]

40. Yes, of course. They were hoping to ram it all through as

"budget repair." That didn't work due to the Fabulous 14. Now the Rs are being really open about their intentions & dropping the fiscal pretense in order to get a bil they can pass with only a simple majority quorum instead of the 3/5 needed for budget bills.

[malaise]

46. Rove is now running the show

Maybe DOJ will understand why criminals should be charged

[8 track mind]

41. Union on this end

Saw it coming as well. They are trying everything they can to get this passed. I have never seen such raw fucking greed in my life.

[Mojorabbit]

32. up nt

[Flo Mingo]

35. and a kick

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

[DFab420]

36. Bump for link?

[TBF]

43. here - Milwaukee Journal Sentinal

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117656563.html

[DFab420]

48. Lol Just found it myself haha

Thank you though!

[spanone]

39. k&r...

[dhill926]

44. kicking.........

Walker in the ass. Metaphorically speaking of course.....

[DFab420]

45. LINK! It's in Committee!

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117656563.html

[opihimoimoi]

55. WTF happened to Fairness?? Their FAMILY VALUES< PATRIOTISM THINGY???

They bend the rules to fit their shyit...never mind fairness and openess

KnR

[DFab420]

50. Here's another

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_8747fa04-4a74-11e0-8e6b-001cc4c03286.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Breaking on MSNBC RIGHT NOW

[TBF]

56. checked CNN online - nothing yet

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. MSNBC is better about this in the afternoon

if this was in the morning, not so much.

[northoftheborder]

53. k&r

[TBF]

kick

:dem: :dem: :dem:

[Control-Z]

54. KICK

and rec. They're talking about it on MSNBC right now.

[DFab420]

57. Dont forget the twitter

#WIUNION

http://twitter.com/search/%23wiunion#search?q=%23wiunion

[TBF]

58. facebook link -

https://www.facebook.com/RecallScottWalker

[DFab420]

59. People are there!

Waiting to get trough metal detectors they say..

http://yfrog.com/h4tsrqmj

*not my pic, just off of twitter

[murielm99]

68. Fuck the metal detectors.

Ram on through. (Peacefully, of course).

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. kick

[crazylikafox]

64. kick

[Snoutport]

65. Fess Up... Did anyone cry they are so mad?

I was reading through people's comments and suddenly this big fat f*$^$(g tear just rolled down my face. I don't know what to do with all this ANGER!

[DFab420]

67. thank you for sayig it haha

I welled up cause I was so fucking frustrated!

[murielm99]

77. I did.

[Snoutport]

128. I'll bet we three aren't

the only ones!

[barbtries]

148. yeah.

you're not alone. i'm listening to last night's Ed show and the teacher interview really brought tears to my eyes. this was so slimy on the part of the WI republicans and they are fools if they think no one's going to notice and this shit will fly.

[Snoutport]

153. stuff is happening here in oregon too

gutting special ed with 25% cuts if they pass this new bill. another 25% next year with the funds being spread out to districts to use for whatever they want. dissolving our school board and appointing superintendents of five other districts to fight over what is left of our funding and equipment.

[kentuck]

66. It is illegal if it changes the budget even one dollar...

up or down. That means it is a useless bit of charade by the Republicans. If it affects the budget, for the positive or negative, it is unconstitutional.

[Imajika]

79. Yes, but they are splitting the bill...

The financial parts such as the union agreed concessions won't be in the bill. They are just passing the collective bargaining and assorted anti-union rules.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. kick

[horseshoecrab]

73. Kick!!!!

[senseandsensibility]

75. I am so angry

but I know the people of WI will fight this. Go, brothers and sisters!

[nadinbrzezinski]

76. kick

[DFab420]

78. THey Just passed it.

4-2

[Name removed]

81. Deleted message

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[MrMickeysMom]

82. Kick it up their rotten ass

[Blue Owl]

84. Another K&R

:kick:

[Starry Messenger]

86. k&r

[sabrina 1]

87. How can they claim it is not a fiscal matter, taking away

the right to bargain IS fiscal.

Have any lawyers addressed this yet?

Bullies, thieves, but in a way I am glad they are finally doing something out in the open that will get people so riled up maybe finally, the people will begin to fight them as they should have long ago.

[Snoutport]

88. are they still in the building?

i wonder how fast those republicans beat it out of that building!

[Stuart G]

92. kick

[Snoutport]

94. The first time I've had flames!

Thanks for all the comments! I'm new to DU so I'm kinda proud one of my posts has flames!

[RufusTFirefly]

96. VIDEO: Clip of crowd at the Capitol

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/03/09-7

[Snoutport]

98. THANK YOU!

Thanks for sharing the video.

[RufusTFirefly]

97. AUDIO: Reaction of Sen. Chris Larson

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/3/9/audio_wisconsin_democratic_senator_questions_legality_of_anti_union_vote

[fishwax]

99. aargh! I thought they might do this -- surprised it took so long

I hope there might be some way to mount a successful legal challenge :grr:

[Scruffy1]

100. K&R

[dhill926]

101. kicking hard as I can.......

[Snoutport]

163. stop kicking me!

[ClayZ]

103. K and R. Hard

[Historic NY]

104. Isn't Big Ed broadcasting from there tonight?

[Historic NY]

106. Well they just eliminated collective bargaining .........

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41996994/ns/politics-more_politics/

[Snoutport]

165. did they ever

[Snoutport]

161. did he broadcast?

[humbled_opinion]

108. This is only the begining

The Rightwingers now have a HUGE victory over unions and they will capitalize on it, its going national.

Where was all this emotion and support back in NOV when it counted?

Didn't people realize this is exactly what these idiots on the Right planned to do all along?

Where was our great communicator explaining it to the American people?

The Right campainged on it, they blast it all over their talk radio and faux news. They are going to systematically dismantle all of the core Democratic programs that make this country great and they are claiming this is the mandate of the 2010 elections.

[undeterred]

109. Doing it in such a nasty sneaky way is going to provoke

a huge response.

[Snoutport]

160. indiana has 20,000 out in the streets!

i think you are right....this should make it bigger

[humbled_opinion]

164. Yeah OK

They will claim nasty sneaky started when the Democrats left the state and the corporate media will nod and follow....

[AzDar]

K & R

:kick:

[NOLALady]

111. Kick

[Hokie]

112. Kicked, I think Walker stepped in it big time

nt

[Cleita]

114. Michael Moore just said that anyone within driving

distance of Madison should get there ASAP.

[upi402]

115. Republicans are absolutely destructive to most Americans

The damned media needs to be taken to rat these rats out. Left to theur own they'll just lie, spin, or ignore.

[onestepforward]

120. K&R!

[MadDad]

121. Just got back!

I just got back from the Capitol. It was a wild scene and if I just knew how to post photos to this site I would- I'm normally a lurker who likes to read and not post.

The outer rings of the Capitol square are jammed with cars honking to the tune of "This is what democracy looks like". When I first arrived there were throngs of people crowding around the outside doors trying to get in and listening to speeches by John Nichols. He was talking about how and why this is illegal and how it can be fought.

After I was there for a while a few people started chanting that the side doors were open. I followed the mass of people into the building and the cops I saw just stepped aside and maybe even smiled. ;) The place was more crowded than I've seen in the past three weeks. There were Wisconsinites of all ages and sizes crowding into the place, and eventually the police just formed lines in front of the entrances to the Senate and other chambers.

On my way out I saw that they needed help moving all of the camping gear back into the building. They had sleeping bags, blankets, pads, tables food, first aid supplies, cleaning supplies, and anything else that you might need for a long term stay. I'm not sure how legal it was, but I may, or may not, have helped them carry several loads into the building.

Finally, I just had to get back home to my family; but, not before I joined the cars in the honking parade going on around the square.

Jon

[Blue Owl]

122. Thanks for the report

I'm watching the live feed and am there in spirit!

[Snoutport]

168. Has anyone seen crowd numbers for THursday night?

Haven't seen a numbers count.

[steve2470]

123. to post photos here, follow these steps:

1- Get a free account at http://www.photobucket.com
2- Upload your photos to this account
3- Get the bulletin board URL for each photo ( i.e., something like kk, with no k's on each end)
4- copy each photo url into the Message portion of your post
5- Each photo should display normally here.

[Snoutport]

135. THanks!

i was wondering how to do it too.

[Snoutport]

129. THANK YOU!

I've been hoping someone would share a first-hand account. How many people were there?! Thank you for going.

[MadDad]

132. Thousands

I got down there about 7:15 and there were hundreds in front of the door where I was standing. I jumped up on a pillar and saw people crowded around the Capitol in both directions. When I first got down here cars were allowed on the inner ring of the square, but the police quickly moved them out of there and closed down all of the streets around the square. Things seemed to grow very fast- very quickly.

Once I got into the building it was hard to move around due the the mass of protesters inside. Evey level was pack and even the stairways and hallways were standing room only. In the past they stated 2,800 people in the building and this was WAY larger than that. Heading back outside I watched as Ian's pizza started bring in food. They said that there phones were going off the hook with people from around the country calling in orders for the protesters.

Outside there were hundreds of cars circling the outer ring of the Capitol honking away and yelling out the windows. The drug store across the street was packed with people buying snacks to take into the building. I had to wait at least 15 minutes to check out as I need to buy a new thermometer for a sick kid at home. As I walked back to my parking spot I saw plenty of more people coming up to join the protest.

[barbtries]

143. terrific.

it is now 6 am thursday morning. i have to go to work but i'll be paying attention! go WISCONSIN! from raleigh NC

[steve2470]

126. anyone know if this tweet is true ?

WORTnews WORT News
RNC Chair Priebus sent out congratulatory message to Gov. Walker and Senate Republicans tonight #wiunion

http://twitter.com/#!/WORTnews

on edit: nvm, saw another thread confirming it

[Snoutport]

131. it wouldn't surprise me!

but i've only seen it on here--nothing to back it up yet.

[snappyturtle]

133. K&R

:kick:

[Snoutport]

170. thanks

[certainot]

137. If you're not in Madison the best place to protest may not be your capitol

if you're not in one of those GOP dominated states.

All day tomorrow 1000 right wing radio stations across the country will get Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's back.

All day the national talkers will praise Walker for standing up to the Unions, like Reagan did. Many of the local talkers will, also.

Rush Limbaugh and Beck and Hannity and Levin and on and on with pin medals on him and continue to trash unions and teachers and public sector workers as right wing talk radio has done for the last two decades.

Rush Limbaugh recently called union workers and teachers and public employees bottom feeders and parasites. He and other national right wing talkers not only screen out callers that would disagree with them but some, if not all, may even use paid callers to pat them on the back. And Walker.

Limabugh denies this, as he does global warming.

Whatever happens in Wisconsin, this well established and dominating monopoly of public airwaves, reaching something like 50 million listeners a week, is going to get a free speech free ride for weeks to dampen down reaction to what is happening in Wisconsin and to support other ant-democratic actions like it.

If you want somewhere to protest and your state capitol is too far away or an inappropriate place to protest and you have a group, then consider your local Limbaugh station.

Some are more appropriate than others location-wise, but all are a big part of why we are here now. Tomorrow they will continue the ongoing attack on democracy, reading scripts supplied by corporate think tanks and maybe even getting calls from them.

And your local media might just be tired of getting attacked and threatened by them.

They are GOP power centers and the origin of much of the myths and distortions and lies that have taken America to this time and place. They make national debate based on facts impossible.

Universities all over the country, like the University of Wisconsin Madison, use these very loud global warming-denying, union hating, and racist stations to broadcast sports and they need to start looking for alternatives.

Their local sponsors need to look for better partners in their communities.

As long as these stations keep getting a free speech free ride the Scott Walkers will have that very loud wind in their sails.

[burrowowl]

139. K&R

[deacon]

140. K + R

[tavalon]

141. Kicked for the night crowd

[Snoutport]

169. and again, i think

[NOLALady]

149. Kick

[Snoutport]

150. I stayed home today and will write letters.

I am going to be writing a lot of emails and letters today. Peeps, we need to stand up!

[BobbyBoring]

154. K+R

n/t

[eppur_se_muova]

156. Please bring Porta-Potties! They're locking the bathrooms! nt

[Snoutport]

157. Well...if you can't hold it...

at least try to get in front of a Republican office before you go!

[Plucketeer]

158. My heart is with you, Wisconsin! nt

[Snoutport]

162. All these hours later...I hope people are heeding the call and heading

to the capital.

This has been an amazing 24 hours in the history of American Politics. For the nearly 5500 viewers of this post. Thank you--I'm new to DU and you have shown me how powerful DU is to get the word out.

Union teacher here. My legislature is calling for 50% cuts to special ed in my district/ESD and they want to replace our publicly elected school board with various superintendents around the city who will decide what parts of special ed they will gut, what equipment they can take, what facilities they can take over. And not a single peep about how many teacher and assistants, speech teachers, autism specialists, etc. who will be terminated and the students who will be crammed into overcrowded rooms as their special ed classes are closed. (though they have made no plans for the kids even though the committee just approved the bill).

So, DU has made me feel powerful in my fight to keep my job and to make sure my students are taken care of. I hope the country will support us as much as we are supporting Wisconsin.

THANK YOU DU and everyone who read. :0)

[Lefta Dissenter]

166. kicking again

just for the hellofit.

Keep it up, everyone. See you tomorrow, and definitely on Saturday. We have to break all records again

[likesmountains 52]

167. kick

[L. Coyote]

172. Saturday NOON. Drive there with your tractor and manure spreader

[butterfly77]

173. K&R..

WE ARE THE ONES WE ARE WAITING FOR!!!