Fucking unbelievable

[SDuderstadt]

Man, this feels just like 2000 and Bush v Gore. What an utter betrayal.

The WI GOP cannot be this stupid to ram this union-busting subterfuge through! I wish I lived closer to Wisconsin. This will not stand. The GOP just launched the first strike in a war that will be their undoing.

[Pacifist Patriot]

1. I hope so.

Sadly I've lost count how many times I've thought that before. :-(

[fittosurvive]

2. It will be interesting to see what happens in the 2012 elections.

[SDuderstadt]

5. Well...

at this point, we can hardly wait until the 2012 (not saying that's what your suggesting). If I understand correctly, Walker cannot be recalled for a while. Time to marshal citizens and lawyers and descend en masse upon Madison.

Hopefully, it will remain peaceful and I have every confidence that we liberals will act within the law. However, someone needs to keep an eye on the Walker forces and expose any violence they perpetrate.

This is every bit as outrageous as Bush v Gore.

[MadMaddie]

53. 1 Year for Walker but now for I think 9

of the Repug Senators can be recalled and the petitions are lighting up.

They are cowards and now the have woken the Wisconsin people......it's on!!

Solidarity!!

[fittosurvive]

56. This is not like Bush v Gore at all.

Wisconsinites advanced this process by means of the democratic process. Now, it is up to them to evaluate the results and determine a future course of action.

[SDuderstadt]

57. I am talking about the trick the...

Republican Senate pulled.

[howaboutme]

3. Average Americans need to get off their ass

just like Egyptians and let the political class know that they won't take having the nation sold out to a few elitists. I've been around long enough and served and I've never before believed that the USA is about a caste society until now. Somehow there has been a hijacking by an elite upper caste that has been given the reins to the USA and our government and we need to take the USA back.

[socialist_n_TN]

7. No hijacking. It's been this way for a while............

at least 30 years. The only difference is that now they don't think they have to hide it anymore.

[Scurrilous]

4. K & R

:thumbsup:

[OHdem10]

6. What are you talking about???

[tallahasseedem]

9. Wisconsin Republicans...

are about to place collective bargaining in a separate bill and ram it through with a simple majority.

[SDuderstadt]

11. Oh, sorry...

Apparently the WI GOP Senators are in the process of stripping out the collective bargaining provision of the budget repair bill so they don't need as many votes to enact it.

I wonder if this was prompted by their realization that moderate Republicans were turning on Walker. It would be great if those moderate Republicans joined with the Dems and beat Walker back.

[OHdem10]

22. Sounds like they are trying to let Walker save face. The People

are getting pretty disgusted with these overreaching
Republicans.

Walker's approval is in the tank.

People are getting signatures to recall 8 republicans
and they are eying Walker and other Republicans once
they have have served a year.

[SDuderstadt]

27. I don't recall any heads-up on this....

even as a possible GOP strategy. Did I miss a warning or did this come out of left field???

[snappyturtle]

55. From what I just heard on the Ed Schultz show, there was supposed

to be notice of at least a couple hours before the vote....by law. John Nichols just said this bill may become a court case and thrown out.

[KansDem]

12. I believe the WI Repubs stripped the budget part out of their bill...

Doing so does not require a quorum (budget concerns). So now it's a union-busting bill pure and simple.

And destined to pass...

[louslobbs]

21. So now let it pass and let the chips fall where they may. We cannot stop lowlife idiots from doing

their dirty deeds sometimes, but the aftermath will not bode well for Republicons since most democrats and independents are no longer asleep.
Lou

[sweetloukillbot]

32. Question - Is this just a move to save face for the Repugs?

With the bill broken in two, the Dems have no reason to stay away - they come back, some moderate Repugs vote w/ Dems and the collective bargaining bill goes down? The budget then passes. Or is that too nuanced for Repug thinking?
On edit: Evidently it is - the Repugs passed it 18-1...

[MadMaddie]

54. I think it's a trick! If the Dems come back then they put the

financial part back in with the Dems in the State.

Republicans only know how to cheat....

[tallahasseedem]

8. If this doesn't unite everyone on the left...

to throw these asses out in 2012, I don't know what will.

[Rex]

10. 'The GOP just launched the first strike in a war that will be their undoing.'

I've been saying that for over a decade and still, somehow the GOPukers seem to come out 'on top'. I hope you are right! Maybe this time they will FINALLY destroy themselves!

One can dream!

[tallahasseedem]

13. We need to unite...

no matter what. Complacency in 2010 swept them into office. We need to sweep them out and keep Obama in 2012.

[SDuderstadt]

16. We've been paying so much attention to the WI Senate...

does anyone know whether there is a similar and coordinated effort in the WT House?

[Rex]

26. We will, the idiots will run Palin or Newt and practically give us 2012.

But yeah...we need a much larger turn out in 2012. I have a handicap niece just got her first voter registration card, but cannot walk without assistance. I told her I would take her to the voting booth so she could participate in our wonderful democracy. She has a few friends that are now interested since I offered a free ride. I plan on having a TON of people ready to go next year so we can keep the WH. We live in a very poor, small southern Texas town where a lot of the local students go home to dirt floors.

I will offer free rides to one and all, hell the whole town if need be! Complacency kills.

[tallahasseedem]

39. We need to fight like we're 25 points down...

we WILL prevail!

[SDuderstadt]

40. WI Dem on O'Donnell saying...

the GOP trick violates WI Open Meetings law and they will be appealing to WI AG tomorrow.

[Rex]

43. Excellent.

The sooner the better.

[SDuderstadt]

It's going to take more than dreaming....

it'll take concerted action.

The GOP will rue the day they did this.

[Rex]

17. I hope so!

They have decades to pay for...now would be a good time to start imo.

[louslobbs]

25. +1000 from your mouth out to the Universe and back. May they suffer the consequences

of their corrupt ways.
Lou

[wildbilln864]

14. k&r! nt

[louslobbs]

15. Let's hope you are right, this cannot and should not stand. There must be consequences

for those who try to subvert the constitution and the laws of our land. Republicons seem to think that the constitution is just a "piece of paper". I remember some Republicon saying those prophetic words. The constitution, laws and taxes are for the "little people".
Lou

[SDuderstadt]

19. I'm not as familiar with the WI Legislature....

ins and outs as I am with the U.S. Comgress, so I am not as sure about the next step in this matter.

This will not stand.

[louslobbs]

30. They are making the biggest miscalculation of this whole debacle

this will come back to bite them all where it hurts the most, in donations to get re elected and at the ballot box. The Koch Klan pushed too hard too fast this time and all their money will not stop what they have started here.
Lou

[SDuderstadt]

46. I could not agree....

more.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

18. Have you been watching Rachel Maddow?

It's not just WI. It's MI, FL, SC, OK and many others. Those of us in red and redder states are fucked. There is no other way to put that.
Duckie

[SDuderstadt]

24. Rachel's not on here yet...

One thing we can count on is that the GOP always overreaches.

I do not think they have any idea how they will galvanize liberals, moderates and even principled conservatives with this outrage. I am literally shaking as I wrote this.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

28. I just meant this week in general...

Not right now. :shrug:

[SDuderstadt]

29. I watch her every night....

I agree with Rachel so much it's scary. It's like I am listening to myself when she speaks.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

36. And she is always telling the truth...

...and when she gets something wrong, she admits it. She bases everything she says on facts. God, last night was fun. It was like back when countdown first started. Her show has THAT energy!

[SDuderstadt]

45. She is great tonight....

as always. Michael Moore on next.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

48. Don't these morons in the upper 1% remember France?

They were fucking the working class there too...

[SDuderstadt]

49. If you're suggesting...

guillotines, count me out.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

50. Of course not... but the rest of it...

[SDuderstadt]

51. Okay...

whew...

[Angry Dragon]

20. Nobody told the voters that they were voting for Kings and Queens

Maybe the average republican will wake up when they see their relatives dying in the streets.

[Major Hogwash]

23. It is unbelievable, a naked grab for power to destroy the unions, and then the Dem party.

So, I guess the Tea party wins after all.

[SDuderstadt]

31. I "infiltrated"...

the Tea Party Patriot National Policy Summit recently when I was visiting family in AZ. They are nowhere near the threat I thought they were, but we should not underestimate them. They are dangerous, nonetheless.

[louslobbs]

34. Exactly, never underestimate the enemy, especially this one.

Lou

[louslobbs]

33. "Not until the last drug store has sold the last pill" they cannot win this

we must fight and fight with all our means to change this course. The Koch's and their ilk aren't going to win this one. Walker and his dictatorial gang are afraid and that's why they've been making one mistake after another. The masses truly have the power and we must continue to use it. They can do whatever they think they can get away with now, but it will all be undone once we "take back our country".
Lou

[Major Hogwash]

52. They already killed the teacher's union in Idaho.

They took away almost every right that belonging to a union has to exist.
They took away their right for collective bargaining for class sizes, to make decisions on the school's curriculum, to give advice on school policies, removed their bonuses and replaced it with a merit system that will promote cronyism, they removed seniority when making decisions of who to lay off and they even got rid of tenure to ensure that no one's neck is safe in this state.

They made the job so untenable, who would want to do it?
Which is their goal.
So, they can privatize the entire public school system.
A corporate takeover of the public school system handed to them by the GOP Governor and legislature.

Their "excuse" was the state budget.
But Idaho was the first state to refuse the stimulus plan offered by Obama in 2009.
The Governor used to refer to himself as a Libertarian when he first ran for office.
In 2008 he said he was a Bush Republican.
He was re-elected last year saying he was just as fiscally conservative as any Tea party member.
And this year he said he was the first Tea party Governor.
And that he was going to "show them how it is done", referring to the Tea party members in the US Congress.

[SDuderstadt]

35. Anyone have a line on...

streaming situation updates?

[SDuderstadt]

37. Wow!

Matthews just broke into a repeat of his earlier show and Ed Schultz has joined him.

Schultz is saying their move is illegal. Looks like MSNBC is going to live coverage.

[SDuderstadt]

38. MSNBC appears to have gone to...

semi-live coverage. O'Donnell appears to be devoting his entire show to this.

[SDuderstadt]

41. Robert Reich and...

Howard Fineman coming on the LO show in just a moment with analysis of the WI GOP power grab.

[SDuderstadt]

42. Reich is on fire...

right this second.

[SDuderstadt]

44. I am now starting to suspect that....

Walker contemplated this move when he took action to clear the Capitol last week.

[SDuderstadt]

47. Now that thousands have gathered at the WI state Capitol...

it's time to spread it to other states.