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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:25 PM
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RECALL!
I just heard the news about Wisconsin.

At least it's out in the open now, that indeed Walker's plan never WAS about fiscal responsiblity. It was about union busting, an attack on the middle class and workers' rights.

It is my hope and prayer that citizens in Wisconsin will rise up in solidarity and demand the recall of Governor Walker. I think I just read somewhere that Walker must be in office for a year before a recall can take place.

I wonder if today's action was even legal?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:27 PM
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1. It's been noted that it is not....
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:28 PM
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2. nor is budget the story in Indiana, Ohio, Iowa, Florida
and any other republican state. Union busting is the story.
and the slimy trail of the Kochs are everywhere.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:30 PM
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3. Right.
Budget is the excuse, the pretense for advancing their agenda.

It's disaster capitalism.
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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:57 PM
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11. New Mexico too
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:05 PM
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15. Hello there!
I'm a New Mexican too.

Love our state, love our country. Wish Wisconsin wasn't so far away so I could attend the protests and stand with Wisconsin's workers. Ultimately we're all in this together.

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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:12 PM
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17. Hello too..
yeah.. I know how you feel.... My brother was protest at roundhouse last month for film work. he is also union. he is still very worry about lost his job.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:32 PM
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4. Screw that! GENERAL STRIKE. Shut down the whole country!
Let's see those corporatists who runs this country, WE THE PEOPLE, or them, the corporations!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:41 PM
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7. You really need to get in touch with reality. This is not Europe
and unions don't have that kind of power here.

Public opinion here in Wisconsin is already strongly on our side. I guarantee that any kind of general strike would quickly turn public opinion against us, causing us to likely lose senate recalls that could have been won and putting the defeat of Walker in a recall election at risk.

When it comes to something like a general strike I really think that is up to the people here in Wisconsin to decide upon because we're the ones who will have to live with it and through it. It's pretty easy for people in other states to call for a general strike here when they can just sit back and watch the results for good, ill, or otherwise.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:47 PM
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9. I'm not calling for a general strike in Wisconsin... We need it NATIONWIDE.
And not just union members either. Then, and only then, will the corporatists know that this country is ruled by WE THE PEOPLE, not them the corporations.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:56 PM
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10. Unions do not have the numbers in this country to do that.
Exactly what I said about Wisconsin applies. Public opinion would flip on our cause and it would be a disaster.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:58 PM
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12. And who should we blame for that?
How about the Republicans who passed anti-union legislation since the Reagan years, as well as the Democrats who actually went along with it?

Not to mention biased media outlets (won't name any, but you know who they are) who smeared the unions every chance they got?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:04 PM
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14. I talking about reality as it exists now, not with how we wished it would be. n/t
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:09 PM
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16. Again, you are not in touch with reality. Non union members would not join in.
A couple of Saturdays ago I stood in protest with the other 100,000 in Madison while you were likely sitting on your ass at home so I heartily resent some POS suggesting that I'm a troll.

The good news for me is that I will never again have to read anything you post again.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:34 PM
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5. We already have the recall situation well in hand here, especially with the senators.
It's going to be near the end of the year before petition signatures can be gathered to recall Walker so we must keep the fires and the passions burning until then, fighting the good fight and getting out the vote.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:40 PM
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6. Great!
Yes, keep the fires and passions burning.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:46 PM
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8. Just yesterday I signed the petition here in La Crosse to recall our Republican state senator,
Dan Kapanke. We need to keep moving forward and keep organized and never stop fighting until the fight is over. We need to get out of the Democratic nice guy mode and not just fight to win but fight to destroy the other side.
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