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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:29 PM
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The WI bill is illegal, it did have a fiscal impact
http://twitter.com/#!/markos

markos Markos Moulitsas
RT @ddayen: on page 12 of the non-fiscal bill the Senate passed, there's a supplemental funding reduction http://bit.ly/i8QC59 #wiunion
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:30 PM
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1. Hot Damn...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:30 PM
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2. good luck getting the republican atty. gen. of wisconsin to give a shit.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:31 PM
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3. Idiots.
So, what happens now? They break the law all the time, war crimes, Wall St. crimes, nothing happens. So, are they going to get away with this also?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:32 PM
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6. don't shoot the messenger
I'm just reporting what I read.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:50 PM
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16. My comment wasn't directed at you. Sorry you took it that way.
It was generic, stating the facts and wondering what happens now.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:32 PM
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4. So they'd just pass it again tomorrow probably...
I mean, if this is the path they've chose they will make sure it's legal.
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Sonicwall Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:36 PM
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10. Except it isn't. That very fact needs to be alerted to the Wisconsin Assembly
and have Democratic party demand it be removed because if it's in there, it's a violation of Wisconsin law.

Hopefully the Dems will demand that the fiscal provision remain there and demand a full Senate to pass it - they won't get one.


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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:44 PM
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14. My point is..
...it has not gone to the assembly yet. It is not law yet. If there is something in the Senate version that would void it later, the Republican Senators can just redo it in the morning before sending it on to the Assembly.

So long as the Wisconsin 14 are away, there will be no debate and Republican Senators can just ram it through in 20 minutes again before sending it on.

If, and this is a big IF, there is something flawed in the bill, then wouldn't it be better to let it pass as is and void it later?
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Sonicwall Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:46 PM
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15. So they're going to recovene the meeting without letting the Dems know
That's another violation of the open meetings law. There's a subsection that requires that a 12 hour notice after the first meeting ends if they want to call the same meeting....

And so far they haven't.

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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:52 PM
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17. I don't know...
I am not sure the bill is flawed. Because some people say it is, doesn't mean it is.

Either way, at this point, it doesn't much matter. The Dems are coming home and the Republicans have shown their hand. They are using the nuclear option whether the Wisconsin 14 are present or not. If they pass a flawed bill and Walker signs it, then we might have something. Until then, it is clear how they intend to proceed.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:32 PM
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5. It's not about law anymore....they're trying to kill us off !
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:32 PM
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7. they didn't give proper notice either. but they've got a republican attorney gen.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:33 PM
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8. Maybe it is a trick to get the 14 back
And once back - vote on the whole thing.......
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:36 PM
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11. That's what this tweet from lawscribe just said:
lawscribe lawscribe
by jazgar
Dem Sens should not come back. Why? If GOP knows it was a BS vote, they'll pull it in Assembly and toss up the budget bill again. #wiunion
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:37 PM
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12. I think the 14 know this - one of them already announced that they're not coming back. nt
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:43 PM
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13. Totally agree. They don't care about legalities AT ALL. Dem Senators need to stay away!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 08:34 PM
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9. That's pretty good work, the Dems didn't even have a copy of that
an hour ago.
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