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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:06 PM Original message |
O.K. Are we ready to call it what it is (Fascism) now? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sorry... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. not till it's too late |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:10 PM Original message |
I agree. "Fascism" get tossed around pretty casually. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's fucking unbelievable...n/t |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I know. I think the same thing when people do not agree with me or my ideas. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
69. When corporations control both political parties you have fascism -- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
149. Try this on for size if its not FACISM... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. It damn sure is. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Dude... |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Not when you can back it with fact and history |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
108. It's not quite hyperbole. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:15 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Show me where I said... |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:33 AM Response to Reply #110 |
119. That's how I interpreted post # 1: |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. That's called a... |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:38 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I dispute that accusation. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:40 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. You're getting colder |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Let's return to the actual argument then. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Let's not |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:14 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. I believe that in a debate |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:24 AM Response to Reply #127 |
129. I'm just not interested in continuing this with... |
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Betty Karlson (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:28 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. There's only two things left to do then: |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #125 |
203. I see what you're saying |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #203 |
210. Ummm, no... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. I'm living in one right now. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I know precisely what I am talking about... |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I think you are the only one that is talking about the Obama |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No.... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Uh dude... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. You first....n/t |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
68. Yes it is. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
74. The fascism started with the Vietnam War, solidified under Reagan. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. It began before he entered office. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
65. It is because of this, I am sad. |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Dooode |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
155. There are degrees. And, we are in it getting worse. |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Tell me which points we are still missing? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. No. It's hardly fascism. |
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mrmpa (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Ok, we won't call it fascism until the very end when all our |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. FDR would disagree. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:03 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Oh, please n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. How much clearer could it be? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Really? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:08 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Which elections disprove corporate control of our government? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Do you honestly think.... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:17 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Corporations gave massive amounts of money to Obama. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:24 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Nevermind...n/t |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #111 |
144. Giving in to the |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
135. It is the use of fascist tactics to divide and conquer. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. "divide and conquer" doesn't make... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
175. yes, it is. Its unfortunate that you cannot see it. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #175 |
180. You wanna see what fascism is actually like? |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. You don't think the situation today closely mirrors the late 20's/early 30's in Germany? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #183 |
194. By virtue of the Enabling Act... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #194 |
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fittosurvive (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
188. You mean there is not a fascist behind every tree? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Everything fits, so yes it is |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. "Now"???? |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. since 1980.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
70. Right wing political violence came into the open on 11/22/63 -- |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Actually since the 1920's |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
71. New Deal was a turning point which has now been overturned -- only Social Security |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #71 |
143. Maybe "that is all there is " for the middle class, but we poor people stand to lose more. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's just about a finality.... but yes, we are seeing the reach for fascism |
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dhill926 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. yes..... |
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Lifelong Protester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. It is fascism, pure and simple |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
186. Yep |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. There are no jackboots |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Hitler had labor leaders murdered... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Hitler didn't need to murder labor leaders for it to be fascism |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. There it is again |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Do you really regard the Obama administration as... |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. No, it is what has taken over the Republican party over the |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Now you are moving the goalposts.... |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Whatever. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
177. Now you are arguing for the sake of argument. Why so obtuse? |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
140. I would label it an Oligarchy. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. I'd say we're about where Germany was in 1928-32 or so. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
66. I certainly don't. More like an (omg) appeaser? ok, I said it. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #30 |
115. Ask for a refund on your tuition |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Here's a better idea.... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
86. Fascism does not equal murder. It is a political system to what people |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:26 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Pay attention |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:36 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Yes. At different moments of their development. Rush, Glen, Ann, and scores of others have not |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:37 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Rush, Glen and Ann are, in no way... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:39 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Thank you for your opinion. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Why don't you read what Chip Berlet... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Done. Chip Berlet and I agree... we are fighting fascism in the U.S. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Notice Berlet's use of the... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:07 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Yes. And he wrote that nearly 20 years ago. You keep using him as a source... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:12 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. You're the one with the question |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. So you haven't yet disproved that his definition of fascism does not apply today. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:26 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Nothing I provide will convince you, so... |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #114 |
179. It also seems that nothng will convince you...... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. Serious question |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. ARe you seriously taking the tactic of the "why don't you leave if you don't like it here" crowd? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:07 AM Response to Reply #112 |
126. Read post # 122 n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #87 |
132. when cops put me in a cage for having flowers in my pocket |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
146. I guess Beck's "I want to beat them with a shovel" was not violence |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
164. "You have no idea what it is like to live in a fascist country" |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Read William Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" or.. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #166 |
171. You read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and didn't see the parallels? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. Dude... |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. I can see the lessons in that book went right over your head. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. LOLOLOL... |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #178 |
197. Read it twice....just don't feel like arguing with the willfully ignorant. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #197 |
209. Oh, of course... |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. LOL Really, there are just some people |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. While I get your meaning, and agree with you, what you are describing isn't "fascism" |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. exactly |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Ding, Ding, Ding, |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
217. That exactly sums up the counter-argument. |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yes. And too those who think that's too strong a term, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. I have for years |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. They have used PR and people submissiveness. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. And the answer to that is....... |
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Drew Richards (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yes its the new fascism |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
22. It would be interesting to see the results of a recurring poll. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. A reminder to knee-jerk naysayers. "Fascism" does not only refer to Nazi Germany. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Please define fascism for us. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Try Chip Berlet... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. OK, I'll check it out. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #46 |
75. Here are Berlet's hallmarks of Fascism |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Why don't you ask Chip Berlet? |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Make the argument for satisfaction of 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10 and 11. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:11 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Dude... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:15 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Fine, give up. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Dude... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:29 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Don't believe it... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Dude... |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
185. Sduder has been obnoxious and dismissive |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #185 |
193. Addendum |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #185 |
215. Occupational hazard... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
148. And by the way, you still haven't countered my answers |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
147. Dude! |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:13 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. That being said, I agree that we do not live in a Fascist country |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Dude... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:19 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. I didn't say they were smart, I said they were Fascists |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Dude... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Deleted message |
Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
163. You should start a journal, sduderstadt. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. I don't need a "journal", dude.... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. You are so right, sduderstadt. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #163 |
199. . |
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Oasis_ (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. OK |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Hint: It is not ALL about you. nt |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Simply asserting that in emotional tones does not add weight to your assertion. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
72. Fascism is authoritarian rule -- not the voice of the people -- |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Or Spain or |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Obviously if Fascism arrived with a big sign that said "fascism", it wouldn't work. |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. The Boiling frog is a great analogy. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. The "boiling frog" is a... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Link. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Deleted sub-thread |
Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
109. While it is not a scientific fact specific to an actual boiling frog (or frogs). |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:31 AM Response to Reply #109 |
118. +1 |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
134. "So it comes, in disguise..." |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
42. "fascistic" or "soft facisim" or "has elements of proto-fascism" |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Close enough to fascism that we need to be fighting against it. n/t |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's been fascism for a long time. n/t |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
54. plutocracy - the tyranny of money. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
58. Yes.n/t |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
63. 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
73. True -- coincidentally W began subsidizing the Vatican's "faith-based" organizations just when they |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
90. 36 yup |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
94. Dr Britt's 14 points are nonsense. |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #94 |
128. ROTFLMAO |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Your painting is vivid, but not realistic. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #131 |
137. I'll attempt a rebuttal to your points.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Deleted message |
Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I disagree. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. I also disagree.. |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
120. K&R n/t |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
133. Killing millions for oil is NAZI. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
142. Yes! It's fascism! From dudes who are paid to troll this board an hijack threads to |
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Skip_In_Boulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
150. Don't forget the corporate takeover of M.I. that happened yesterday. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
145. Breaking up families |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. The religious right has been doing this since the 1980s. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. Wow what a story |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. Thanks, felix_numinous |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
151. A democratically elected legislature passes a law we don't like |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Wow. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. you don't even understand what fascism is |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Under true fascism we would not even be able to have this debate |
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zappaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Good point! n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Deleted message |
fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #157 |
207. oh... corporations and the right wing are working on that right now, aren't they |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #151 |
161. And The Fed just reported they could find no "illegally foreclosed" homeowners. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #161 |
219. That was a story that hasn't recevied nearly enough attention..proof positive that the fix is in.. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #151 |
181. wow, dude, that is NOT what happened yesterday. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
154. Yes it is. |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
167. A good friend |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. How old is your friend??? n/t |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #168 |
169. she is in her |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. You realize that her timeframe is impossible... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. Hitler died in 1945, 76 years ago. n/t |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. 2011-1945 = 66 years ago |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. We were saying that she would not have direct memories of Hitler's rise to power |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #187 |
195. You said she claimed she was... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #187 |
205. Yes, you got me there, |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #167 |
189. Hitler came to power in 1933. Your friend at work is 87? |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. sorry I should have |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. Why, yes... |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. LOL. You really only need to have read one good book about Nazi Germany to realize how stupid |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #200 |
218. Fascism doesn't ONLY = Nazi Germany... |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #196 |
202. Give it time. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Got a credible link for Bradley Manning being beaten? I hadn't heard that. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #204 |
206. Oh, I'm sorry. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #202 |
212. Aha! |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #196 |
211. My thoughts exactly. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #211 |
213. The OP is about fascism, not "Nazi Germany". nt |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #213 |
214. ?? We were responding to the post titled "a good friend," which is part of this thread |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #214 |
216. Yes, I see that now. nt |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #167 |
201. My mother-in-law also grew up in Germany during WWII. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
191. K&R |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
208. I was ready yesterday... |
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