MissHoneychurch
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Thu Mar-10-11 07:59 AM
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When did we take the wrong turn? |
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Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 07:59 AM by MissHoneychurch
When did it happen that a bunch of very rich people started to decide over our lives. When did a few companies decided to fuck us all over with the crap of food they are selling to us? When did greed took over common sense? When did corporations took over the real power of the government, no matter who is the first man/woman of the country?
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Thu Mar-10-11 07:59 AM
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1. reagan, trickle down, me me me. nt |
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:01 AM
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:49 AM
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16. DING DING DING - We have a Winner Folks |
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:04 AM
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It was coming, but went into high gear with St. Ronnie Raygun.
And that was made possible, maybe inevitable, the night of June 5-6, 1968.
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:14 AM
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I've always wondered why so many voters never have doubts about putting self-proclaimed 'government haters' into high office; but then have the stones to be shocked by the consequences...
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Thu Mar-10-11 10:41 AM
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28. That wasn't yellow rain, folks. |
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:00 AM
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it came in with the inauguration of st. ronnie We've been going down hill every since
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:04 AM
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5. When we bought the notions that we could all be white collar workers and |
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live the lifestyles of the rich and famous. When we decided that Americans don't do menial work or trade jobs and that we needed to have it all and have it now. When we bought the idea that we could get rich quick by gambling on stocks rather than slowly through pensions or savings. When we swallowed the notion that business aka the customer is always right so you lay it all down for the employer on the altar of the great god of capitalism. When we sold our souls for pottage.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:07 AM
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6. Sometime around 1781, I think. |
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This has been a fight from the very beginning.
The inflation of the 60's resulted in a lot of practices that moved us to the DLC turning its back on American labor. Since then it's been an ugly slide away from the democracy that had survived two centuries of assault by business.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:08 AM
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7. Not doing enough to win back the Reagan Democrats. |
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I think you know what this means.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:08 AM
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8. 1980 election, Ronald Reagan. |
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At that moment, the nosedive began. We're still in it. For this reason, I consider Reagan our worst president ever, certainly the worst in my lifetime (I'm 61). The casually evil bush and cheney merely continued and deepened the pattern that St. Ronald set in stone.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:08 AM
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Government contracts in the Civil War.
Followed by Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific in 1886.
Or, if pressed, one could take it back to the British East India Company in colonial days.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:09 AM
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10. Inception of this country - only landowners could vote. K&R nt |
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:12 AM
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Reagan was the first to make it okay to demonize government and demonize liberals (the unspeakable "L word"). Reagan policies led to a widening gap between rich and poor. Union busting and the offshoring of jobs took off (and continue today). The rest is history.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:16 AM
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12. The tipping point was when we gilded the torch of liberty. |
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To me that was the symbolic beginning of the age of greed. And when you look at it it is a fitting symbole....liberty is now defined as golden.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:24 AM
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And I don't even like Shakespeare, dammit!
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:26 AM
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15. approx 1750, when rich white guys decided to form a gov't |
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... to protect the few (them) from the many (the poor, non-white, non-male, etc etc)
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:51 AM
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17. Overall, Reagan changed the focus of the Economy which gave |
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Business and Elites more power.
This is not to bash the DLC. But we must and they must understand how they contributed. I do not believe they had "evil" intentions. Forming the DLC appears to have been a move to compete with the Republicans for the up the scale voter. Reagan had made changes which favorer the Business and Elites, and upper incomes. They honestly believed that many of these voters would buy into the Democratic Party. There are rich Democrats. The DLC seemed to believe they could get some moderate Republicans and Republican Leaning Independents. I do believe they thought or intended to push back on Republicans.
However, As Reagans policies gave Business more and more power, the Republicans moved farther and farther right Instead of the Holding the Line in the Center between the parties, the Democrats moved Right following the Republicans.
I am not bashing DLC or Blue Dogs. They have gotten caught up and now they are often indebted to same Corporate Masters as the Republicans. Who does this leave to look out for the Working Class and Poor.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:57 AM
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I think it was the Early Dynasty Egyptian pharaohs who really figured out how to control the masses and exploit them for their own benefit. We've been building pyramids for rich people ever since.
What is happening in this country right now is nothing new. It just feels different, because it is US that is being affected, not people in history books. Maybe when we stop building pyramids for rich people, things will finally change!
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:58 AM
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19. Joint Stock Virginia Company |
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This country was founded by corporations. Don't let the scratchy lace collars fool you. They'd be wearing Armani these days.
The whole history of this country is also a timeline of the development and growth of capitalism.
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 AM
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Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 AM
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21. When people abandoned downtowns for the mall. And television grew into cable. |
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:10 AM
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23. What counts your vote? |
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:12 AM
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24. Read Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" |
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It began very, very early.
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:30 AM
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26. The early modern period. Also known as the Renaissance. |
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The rise of a powerful and wealthy merchant class in Venice, and after in Tudor England and the Netherlands. See: Royal chartered companies like the Dutch East India Company, the British East India Company, the Duke of York's Royal Africa Company, commercial colonies like Virginia and New Amsterdam, the rise of imperialism in the name of trade routes and wars fought for commercial concessions--for instance,one of the concessions given in the treaty ending the War of the Spanish Succession was a thirty-year contract to supply slaves to Spanish possessions in North America; the British Crown surrendered the rights to the South Sea Company, which collapsed in a stock bubble in 1720. The roots of this go back all the way to the rise of the commercial class as a separate and distinct entity, and in the pursuit of profit; if you want to fix a date for it it would probably be the late seventeenth/early eighteenth century with the development of the first stock exchange in London where shares in the joint stock companies of the day were publicly traded.
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Thu Mar-10-11 09:34 AM
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27. This is part of the Long March toward democracy... |
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