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Powdered Toast Man Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:17 AM
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I think I'm done.
And I won't really be missed around here. And I don't really care.

Actually, I think I'm done with all discussion groups and comment sections and forums. It amazes me how utterly heartless and rude people can be on here, as well as just about every other online discussion; even when you try to agree. Even when you don't have to TRY to agree.

Somebody will find something in your statement to take issue with, and then 10 other people will jump on the bandwagon. And you end up wanting to change our opinion just because you were attacked.

Since I'm leaving, I don't mind saying this. I read a thread today in which someone whose mother chose adoption over abortion was vehemently attacked by pro-choice advocates, despite being pro-choice himself. He was told it wouldn't have mattered had he been aborted, because he wouldn't have known.

I was hoping to see someone come to his defense as I read. I was wrong. That didn't happen.

Granted, the issue of abortion is always going to be a highly contentious issue, even when people agree on it apparently, but this low level of discourse, this disregard for anyone else's opinion isn't relegated to high controversy issues. It happens with everything... on every type of forum/group out there. And it's sad.

It's sad that people can be so thoughtless with their remarks. Of course, since there are no repercussions what do you expect. You can go on anywhere and say what you want without remorse because who the hell is going to know it was "you" saying it?

Well, I've had my share. I've had my fill, and I do not want another helping.

You can all have at it.

Oh, and make sure to check for typos. If all else fails, you can rip me apart for that.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:20 AM
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1. I don't care for guilt trips in my personal life nor on message boards. n/t
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:20 AM
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2. Maybe just take a break.
There are thoughless people out there,cruel even. Just read replies in any newspaper,or any Youtube video.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:21 AM
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3. Another drama queen
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 10:21 AM by hobbit709
If I got fed up and left, I would just leave. whenever I've had enough of a situation I just walked out the door without looking back.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:21 AM
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4. "In matters of conscience,
the law of the majority has no place. It is slavery to be amenable to the majority, no matter what its decisions are." --Gandhi

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:25 AM
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5. FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON AROUND HERE WITH AN OUNCE OF SENSE!!!!!!1! IF YOU LEAVE, WHAT WILL BECOME OF US?!?!?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:39 AM
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20. PLEASE DON'T QUITE!!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:55 AM
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26. lol n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:25 AM
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6. Why should DU be different than any other place? You will always find disagreements with people,
along with statements that are brilliant, intelligent, stupid, insensitive, and just plain asinine. People are people

That is why the forum provides an avenue to ignore posts, or in cases where posts are more then opinions, but personal attacks, to alert the moderators

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:25 AM
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7. when it's anonymous
it makes it easy for people to be rude and divisive.

I've been here 10 years and have seen plenty but I don't pick fights with people or try to convince anyone to accept my point of view. DU is a great site for information and opinion but if it bothers you to have people disagree with you then don't get in arguments over controversial topics.

It's worked for me.

Good luck.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:26 AM
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8. Ummm, isn't that why it's called freedom of speech? I know some one will
come on and say there is a time and place for everything, but, who is to decide what time and what place? Everyone has to have a voice in order for anyone to have a voice, even the ones we don't like.
I've seen many one here that brought out my inner rage, but I figured they were they were just trying to get an argument going (that's what I told myself) then proceeded to ignore their rant. One must have a very thick skin to follow politics these days.:shrug:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:55 AM
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25. More like DU anonymous Freedom to be An Asshole.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:12 AM
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30. Ah but everyone is an asshole to someone.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:46 AM
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34. Some are assholes to everybody. Except to the other assholes in their "Me Too" Asshole brigade
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 11:48 AM by emulatorloo
In the real world they would be unable to get away with it.

If you were in a real world discussion and somebody started getting all doctrinaire and ascribing the worst possible psychological motivations to you, that person would have to deal with the consequences of that behavior. Not so at DU.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:26 AM
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9. did YOU come to that person's defense???
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:28 AM
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10. hey... i hear ya. didnt go on abortion thread, cause well.... never works. take care. nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:29 AM
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11. If one is going to stop posting, just... stop posting.
I don't understand the "goodbye cruel message board" type posts.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:30 AM
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13. i appreciated the posters perspective. agree or not, he/she merely expressing self
which is what the discussion board is
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:05 PM
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87. Maybe there's a small shred of hope that the jerks who act like jerks
and drive good people away, may see what they've done and decide not to be such jerks anymore.

Slim chance better than none.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:30 AM
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12. Use the ignore option
And the ability to hide threads.

You can control your experience here. A troll can be spotted in one post and put on ignore. It's easy to see the troll threads from the subject line, but if you're in doubt - does it have a ton of replies but no recs? Then it is most likely just a thread to stir stuff up and you can hide it.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:31 AM
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14. I think this type of OP
shows a desire to always have the last word.

The thing I've learned on DU is to make my point and let it stand on its merits. Don't try to get the last word or get everyone to agree with you - it's a discussion board!

Just realize that even if other DUers post replies disagreeing with you, at least you've had your say.

Other posters and lurkers might agree with you and use your ideas at a later date. That's how memes are born.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:33 AM
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15.  Boards started out with thoughtful discussion, now they are are a place for people to
ridicule, condemn and criticize.

Hopefully they will come full circle and be a place for meaningful discourse.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:35 AM
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16. it's an imperfect world dontcha know
and getting more imperfect all the time...

Stay, you might change your mind.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:35 AM
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17. Toughen up, buttercup. It's a mean world and getting meaner by the hour.
You better fucking get used to it because things aren't gonna get all snuggly and civil and nice anytime soon.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:52 PM
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82. Yeah, by all means, lets all GET TOUGH AND MEAN!!!!
HEY,we can bring guns to rallies, and we can start wars, too!

Get. Tough. And. Mean. For. A. More. Peaceful. Planet.

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:06 PM
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88. And we're a mean message board and we're gonna get meaner. n/t
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:23 PM
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93. Yup. Oh well.
Shit - I'm not setting the parameters, I'm only acknowledging them.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:37 AM
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18. I know - it seems to have gotten worse, like some people are hovering JUST to
swoop in and nab a chance to be nasty. I hate it, too (and, although I KNOW better), I always take it personally and get my hackles up. :7

We want a place where we can discuss, get our questions answered, have respectful arguments rather than someone telling us, because we don't agree, that we're ignorant beyond belief, or something like that.

It's building my character to stay and learn that it's not ME, it's THEM, and if I left I would miss out on SO much support, helpful discussions that expand my awareness, and the really GOOD people who are here for the same type of interactions. And I've even found that some people who I thought were just terrible (because they attacked me, after all :7), can be just really nice, too.

Anyway, I understand but I think you're focusing on the negative and forgetting about all this site and these people can bring. Plus, we need you. :pals:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:38 AM
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19. rule #1. try not to let anonymous strangers on the internet offend you. i can be hard, i know.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:40 AM
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21. Well I know how you feel, but...
that's how life is.

People are just going to be shitty and nasty whatever you say. Or don't say. Or they think you said. Or because you remind them of a hated relative. Or because it's Monday.


Online and in real life.

What are you gonna do...hide in a cave forever?

I'm not trying to be snarky or sarcastic here. Honestly, I do understand, but people are going to be people (which means they can be unbelievably unreasonable at times) and you just have to find some way to let it all roll off your back.

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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:42 AM
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22. Meh
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 10:43 AM by Jim Warren
I registered here in 2002, have been a donor but only come by once in a great while now.
My take: All forums suck.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:46 AM
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23. I beg no one to stay, I beg no one to go...
tootles.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:54 AM
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24. I get your point. People on the internet think they can be assholes. And they can be, they arent'
held accountable. On the otherhand, the majority of DU'ers are not that way. If you look hard you will see it is the same names over and over posting the hate bullshit.

Best of luck.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:57 AM
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27. over the last handful of years.... well, really last couple
i think people have gotten so brave doing it on internet that it is actually becoming a part of RL. which is sad. not totally. i still run into a lot a lot of good people. i am an isolationist, but when i do go out i talk to so many....
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:00 AM
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28. Well................
...........bye.

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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:38 AM
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31. CURLEY BELL!
That's funny
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:00 AM
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29. I don't really care for net nannies -
you post your view and I'll post mine. There are folks on here that I sometimes vehemently agree with on one subject, and disagree on others. If people are particularly personal or sniping I may block them, and I'm sure they'd do the same to me if they felt I was out of line. That's why the "ignore" function was invented. What I will not do is tell people what they are allowed to post or not post.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:40 AM
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32. Damn it must be the air
this is the second cry for help I've seen on here this morning. I hope its not contagous

have a nice after life, after DU that is :-)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:41 AM
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33. I often wonder, if animals could participate in discussion boards
would they behave differently than humans? I believe they would.

Imagine a discussion board where only dogs could post. I bet that'd be a fun place to read.

Now the cat board, might be a bit catty, but even so.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 01:56 PM
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40. The Dog Board Would Be A Bunch Of Bitches............
.........and the cat board would be a bunch of pussies.

And the rooster board...........
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:05 PM
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42. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!11111
:rofl:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:11 PM
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90. ...
:thumbsup:

Sid
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:57 PM
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59. Canine board...too much dogma....
:+

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:36 PM
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73. Cat Board - everyone would be on ignore
:o
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:44 PM
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78. hahahahaha! n/t
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:49 AM
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35. !
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:50 AM
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36. Yes, our society has become very rude. It is very upsettig to older people, who actually remember
being able to carry on a civil conversation.

I understand, and I hope you aren't reading all the ugly replies... power trips.

Be good to yourself, and please try to remember us forgotten ones... the poor people of this nation.

Best wishes!
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:09 PM
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45. Society was ALWAYS rude /nt
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:12 PM
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46. Try talking to the older generation sometime. Excuses for ill behavior aren't helping the cause.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:14 PM
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47. Rephrase: There have always been rude people
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 02:36 PM by CommonSensePLZ
As well as polite people. You use a picture of Harriet Tubman, but as a black woman she would've been VERY disrespected in her time.

There's maybe a generation gap in responding here.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:08 PM
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63. Yes, indeed, there IS a generation gap.... and it isn't faring well for the younger generation.
Of course there have "always been rude people"... I mean, do we really need to state the obvious?

The point is, that now RUDE is considered "cute", and "normal", where before, RUDE PEOPLE were mostly ostracized.

Think about this... all of my life, I have had older friends... a lot of times, MUCH older.

My friends now who are in their 80s are saying "I'm glad I'm coming to the end of my life, because I don't want to live in a society run by what I see of younger people today."

Now, that is very sad, and if you have any compassion in you, it should make you stop and think.

I hope you do.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:52 PM
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58. I'm from the older generation. You are so right.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #58
65. Thank you, emilyg. I hope you see my other reply to poster... about my older friends.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:10 PM by bobbolink
I have older friends who don't want to share the same planet with the rudeness, and also Indian friends and friends of other cultures who are no longer interested in participating in this culture because of the harshness.

It is desperately sad.

The last thing we need to do is consider it "normal"!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:43 PM
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97. Before or after women had the vote? Civil Rights Act? Loving v Virginia?
My mother was born in 1934 and she thinks we're much better off now ... but she remembers segregation and how women were treated.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:28 AM
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107. Oh please, all of you.
Stop kissing up to yourselves. Neither yours nor any generation prior to and after it has been or ever will be the picture of perfect behavior. It is, however, a common trick of the memory to focus on the positive aspects of the past to make it seem like it was so superior to the present, but it's just a lie: "Rose-colored glasses," "grass is always greener". You seem to honestly have forgotten rudeness you already endured and endured from your own generations and even older ones.

You might perceive rudeness from someone younger because as I said before, the generation gap where you both don't communicate the same way. You've both learned different mannerisms and different styles of tact, but your response is to say "mine is better" because that's all you know and you were trained (perhaps I mean brainwashed) to believe that was the only way. I shouldn't pick on you, I might end up doing the same thing when I get older. I might even re-read this and still think my time was better even with all the crap of today.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:40 PM
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96. "No Dogs or Irish Allowed" "Colored Use Back Door" - THOSE polite bygone days?
Please don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:09 PM
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101. You again. Go ahead and praise rudeness... it would be expected.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #101
103. Stop lying to yourself and idealizing perfection that NEVER existed
Shooting the messenger won't change the bad news.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #45
75. no. but it is nifty to make it a norm. as if we could not be anything else but rude
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:50 PM by seabeyond
really. then we dont have to accept any personal responsibility for our own behavior

in the dna, biological, lmao
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:23 PM
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68. Yeah, it was fucking awesome in the 50's
Every Black person knew their place...

60's were even better, nobody being hung, nobody being shot in riots, nobody yelling and screaming at everyone..

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:39 PM
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76. throw the baby out with the bath water? so in order to become a better society in one area
we must adopt and uglier society in another area?

i dont think it has to work that way
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:59 PM
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85. I think society is 10,000 times more open that it was
for folks who are say are now 65-95 years old...


That's what is really happening when you hear people say (people were more civil, times were better, everyone was nice)

Yeah, you didn't send an email or put it on facebook about Judy fucking around on her husband, it was hush hush after the tea party...

My MIL was sheltered growing up, and her mom who came to stay with us is the quintessential example of this. (She's 82) We had to ensure nothing on the tv was rated anything higher than (G). To her credit she would never say a bad word about anybody EVER. And some subjects are verboten as she would be offended by seeing a naked ass. Just something fake about it to me.

Her daughter, (my wifes mom), as I said, was sheltered growing up. The whole nine yards. Her dad was a drunk but that wasn't spoken of. She wasn't allowed to get dirty or do any of the things the "boys" did. Now at 57 she has very little life skills..and suffers from depression.

So yeah, Girls don't do those things, Men are the providers, Being gay is an abomination, everyone had their Sunday best and actually wore it on "Sunday", Comedians on TV had "clean" humor...Everything just Hunky Dory :eyes:


No thanks, I'll take blunt honesty and some crass over fake "civility" every day...



Or, we can just blame it on MTV
:rofl:

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:17 PM
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92. i was from az and calif.... and a little in nevada. before texas. no
i did not see the hate to gays and blacks and even women for the most part. but then i was born in the 60's. people were much more accepting. my parents didnt have the bogotry growing up in the mid west.

maybe it was heavy in the south. but much of the nation didnt have it.

not idealizing it. but also realistic about those days. in a way, in my time and area, we were MORE accepting than today, in many ways.

objectifying women for the sake of male entertainment really is not the odometer of progression.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:40 PM
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77. in the old days people were friendly but not very nice
People said please and thank you, but lynched the blacks. So things are relative

Studies have shown people are more rude on the internet where people don't have to interact face to face. So on the the internet it isn't surprising that discussion forums get a little heated. If you use them, you have to learn to take some people lightly. And by all means nothing wrong with not posting for a while when it gets to you.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:51 PM
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81. are you saying that hate is not live and well, festering on the nets? nt
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:59 PM
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100. no
I'm pretty sure I'm saying people are more likely to be mean and rude on the net than they are in person. At least some studies have shown that.

As for the past. People were may have been more friendly, but they weren't very nice. An old expression, certainly I didn't invent it.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:52 AM
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37. So you didn't see what you wanted to happen and now will take
your ball and go home? Whatever. I've seen people quit for weaker reasons, but not by much. Maybe grow a little bit thicker skin or just don't post on forums where you won't get exactly what you want from people.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:54 AM
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38. Take a respite at the Israel/Palestine forum--or just leave. Buh-bye. nt
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:00 PM
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39. You make a good point but the usual suspects will be along shortly to belittle you
Not that you are probably surprised. People get defensive when you call them on their shitty behavior.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:01 PM
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41. It makes one wonder what is real or not. I don't know who those people were but we all need to
watch how we frame things. I know a moderator who tries hard to keep up but things even on DU are heating up at a rapid pace. I think people are at the end of their ropes. I was accused of not caring about the poor the other day and I said I wouldn't be on DU if I didn't care about them and I myself am not even middle-class anymore. I tried to let the person know I truly did care. That helped some. I guess we all need to take a few deep breaths now and then and make sure we "walk" in the other persons shoes.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:08 PM
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43. Lol love your SN - IBTL
I know, people here are so oversensitive, bitchy and find fault with the wrong thing instead of getting the general idea. Look, a feminist will probably get me now for using the B word.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:09 PM
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44. Well since I am the one that wrote the statement that offended you so greatly
You have SEVERELY misquoted and mischaracterized what I said. Maybe you ARE making the right decision in leaving the message boards since you obviously have a hard time understanding the written word.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:06 PM
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62. I didn't see whatever set this whole thing off, but...
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:12 PM by pipi_k
I do know one thing...

When people get all shitty to each other and toss things like that around ("You have a hard time understanding the written word") I always wonder what possesses people to be that nasty, particularly to someone who already appears to be feeling badly about himself
.

I mean, you could be talking to someone who really DOES have some sort of reading or cognitive disability.

You just never know.

and throwing a statement like that in the person's face...well, it's unbecoming to start with, and could actually be very hurtful if the person does have a problem.

sigh...

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:57 PM
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84. I thought was complaining about the other poster
the one posting vehement stfu stuff, but I see you are quoted in OP, and wrongly. I understood what you meant there, as I understood the poster who said each is responsible for how they feel, no one can make anyone feel any way.

Both could be taken wrongly, as could my post about opinion vs privacy rights.

Communicating on the internet forums can need to take time to clarify rather than assume.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:19 PM
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48. You are casting asparagus and that's hugh and series. Don't be a moran.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:21 PM
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49. What happened? Did you come here expecting love and kudos for a principled anti-choice stand?
Give me a fucking break. Worry about your own body, Jack. Let other people worry about theirs. Know what that's called? That's called being PRO CHOICE.

You're done? No, I'm done. I'm done with fucking control freaks who think they were placed on this planet to make the personal decisions of strangers. Fuck that. It's 2011. If you can't handle women controlling their bodies and sexuality, if you can't handle gay and lesbian marriages and families, if you can't handle people who don't believe in or pay lip service to your invisible sky-man... Too fucking bad.

DLTDHYOTWO.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:42 PM
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53. What you said
ANYONE that is interested in taking away MY choice can promptly fold his tail between his legs and ooze off to wherever he came from.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:26 PM
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50. Well, you know
When you're powdered toast to start with, you really got nowhere to go from there :D
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:32 PM
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51. Don't leave because of the board bullies and meanies
they live to spread their misery. Most people here see them for what they are, and why they are. Mean people are everywhere. In real life if they cross your path, you stand up to them, use humor, ignore. Absolutely people should come to the defense of a good person from the many pile ons that occur here.

Some come here to bicker and argue, about anything and everything, and not in good faith.


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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:32 PM
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52. Powdered toast man, don't BE toast,
transcend the toast. That is the secret to staying here, and life actually.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:44 PM
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54. The internet is for grownups.
It's a shame that some of them mistaken it for a middle school playground, however.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:48 PM
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55. Oh I just looked up that thread. Have a nice day.
You have near zero history here, so you would not recognize why the rather mild thrashing delivered was a) asked for explicitly and b) par for the course for the thrashee.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:49 PM
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56. I agree. There's a lot of matter-of-fact and contrary people here...but the majority is decent. nt
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:52 PM
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57. P.S. I am pro choice. nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:03 PM
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60. I hate to say it,
but there are some flaming assholes at DU, and they seem to operate with impunity. There are also some really wonderful, kind, caring people who would give you the shirt off their back. I leave here in disgust myself many times, but I come back because I have many good friends here.

The trick is to figure out who is who, and then just ignore the ones who can't be civil.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:05 PM
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61. I'm sorry you are leaving.
I agree with a lot of what you said.

Abortion, eg, is not a choice many women would choose, and I always thought that the Women's movement was about choice, both the choice to HAVE an abortion and the choice not to.

I have seen people attacked for their personal beliefs regarding abortion. But don't let it get to you.

I would not personally have an abortion. Several of my friends have chosen that route. And that is their business, and mine is my business.

I don't understand the need to jump all over people either for their beliefs when they fail to agree with us.

So long as someone is not trying to impose their beliefs on others, as the rightwing does, then I don't see the problem.

Many liberal women would not have an abortion for personal reasons, but they are not telling others what to do so I don't see any problem with that.

Anyhow, political forums can be tough. I used to cry over some of the things I saw on them. But, now, I just stick to facts and if someone doesn't like them, I cannot help that.

Sorry you are feeling so bad. Try not to, most people are kind and do have empathy for others even when they disagree.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:09 PM
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64. But it's the INTERNET. You don't really care, and neither does anyone else.
Seriously.

Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, a crap economy, a GOP douchebag in Wisconsin positioning himself as Führer of the state, and Charlie Sheen's been fired from Two and a Half Men.

You don't really care.

No one here cares either, even if they say they do.

Finally something we can all agree on.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:15 PM
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66. I simply cannot go on this way. This makes the second one today. It
is too much to bear. (all that was :sarcasm: by the way)

It is possible to just not log on any more. Or not post. With more than 150,000 registered members, who will notice?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:15 PM
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67. Waaaaaaaaaaa....
....aaaaaaaaa'll see you later!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:30 PM
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69. As least here everyone can be an asshole and still stay on subject
What I don't get is why I'll be watching a Tool video on youtube and some dipshits have a running argument about Obama...

Or I'll be watching a video about installing a WaterCop system and there will be some fucking juggalos making comments back and forth about ICP :eyes:

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:32 PM
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70. I've found something in your statement with which I take issue.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:35 PM
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71. As final posts go, this was pretty tame


IBTL
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:36 PM
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72. "someone whose mother chose adoption over abortion was vehemently attacked"
link or it didn't happen.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:48 PM
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79. Here you go. I wrote it. I stand behind what I wrote.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:33 PM
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94. I have seen rude and ugly. I have written rude and ugly. I agree with you, this was neither. nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:46 PM
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98. However, the reply from another poster was.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:38 PM
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74. Deleted message
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:49 PM
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80. You saw no defense against that one nasty poster?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:50 PM by uppityperson
Huh. I see several, including mine. Yes, I can be very sarcastic, but also often live down to my user name. There are posters who post nasty stuff, who attack and nitpick, etc. But there are also those who don't. "Ignore" can be your friend, and you learn who to ignore otherwise. Yes, DU has all kinds.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:55 PM
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83. I don't think I was nasty.
There was someone who was a little bit "vocal" in that thread, but taking away rights is generally a pretty emotional subject.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:01 PM
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86. You weren't. I think the vehement one was a bit, and also misunderstood
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 04:03 PM by uppityperson
what was meant. It is an emotional subject and is best to try and clarify what someone means before jumping on their shit. And no, you didn't jump on anyone. Knowing how you are, I understood what you meant, but can see how someone might not, might assume something different. What seems apparent to someone posting may not to others, hence clarifying is good rather than assuming the worst. Some days I am more uppity than others.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:08 PM
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89. Why can't people just go, if they're going to go?...
Why the need for drama?

Sid
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:11 PM
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91. When I leave I will let you know why. Things may change, or may not, it is good
to give perspective as to why.

If you truly don't care, why did you take the time to reply? Serious question.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:35 PM
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95. I don't care about this poster...
I do care about the apparent need for anonymous posters to write some sort of GBCW missive to a bunch of other anonymous posters.

:shrug:

Sid
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:49 PM
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99. No Typos!!!
my advise - never start a thread, just read, learn, breath.

enjoy your sabbatical from DU
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:32 PM
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102. Many of the rude posters are not actually responding to the posts they read.
Many rude posters are actually responding to an argument in their own minds. They created a fantasy with heroes and villains, and then cast others into those heroic and villainous roles. So far, the best method I have come up with to counter these fantasies is to ask, "What do you think I am claiming/asking?" Usually, the poster will simply stop posting in the thread, but occasionally, the poster will actually offer their interpretation. When this happens, discussion with this poster can usually continue.

This happens in non-computer relationships as well, but it is not as obvious.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:18 PM
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104. OK
Maybe this isn't for you. There's been plenty of times it wasn't for me, so I stepped away.

You can't hold the board responsible for some people being thoughtless. Often threads move fast here. MAybe most of the board missed the thread you are talking about. I certainly did. I will point this out though - you won't find a more polite board that discusses politics anywhere. Not because we're so polite, but because the internet brings out the worst in people. This is just the way it is.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:23 PM
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105. Just take a break. And don't let this stuff get to you. Voice your opinion, defend it if
you're so moved, but you have as much right to voice your opinion as anyone else here. I've been here for a long time, and more than once I've had other DUers throw all kinds of insults at me. My response is, "whatever." Sometimes I argue back, sometimes I don't. But what I don't do is hold back on stating my opinion when I am moved to do so. Try that. Let those who want to insult you knock themselves out. And as much as I really don't like the ignore feature, that's something you can try too.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:28 PM
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106. K&R
Try the IGNORE button.

- It works for me......
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