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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:53 AM
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Interesting analysis of US fiscal policy issues from Simon Johnson on Bloomberg.com
His basic proposition is that in the not too distant future the US is going to experience a fiscal crisis similar to what is happening to countries in the Eurozone. The reason? Other countries and corporate investors will refuse to continue buying federal debt to finance the running of our country. We will be force to make cuts, and the republicans will be holding the shears.


The central conceit behind official thinking about fiscal policy on both sides of the aisle is that investors will buy almost all U.S. government debt without blinking an eye or increasing Treasury yields. This is an endearing and heart- warming notion, rather like a seasonal showing of Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life."



The question becomes how long do we as a country have before our debt becomes worthless?


The key to debt sustainability isn't how much revenue the government can raise relative to gross domestic product or some other economic characteristic. It's whether a country has the political will to raise taxes or cut spending when under pressure from the financial markets.

This is where Greece and Ireland were found wanting in 2010; we'll see how Portugal, Spain, Italy, Belgium and perhaps even France do in 2011. Then it will be the U.S.'s turn.


Is there a way to head this off at the pass and lessen the long term impact? Because we know that once our social safety nets are dismantled in the name of austerity and restoring financial stability, they will be gone for good. But will that help?


The U.S. government doesn't take in much tax revenue -- at least 10 percentage points of GDP less than comparable developed economies -- and it also doesn't spend much except on the military, Social Security and Medicare. Other parts of government spending can be frozen or even slashed, but it just won't make that much difference.



So when do we truly understand that we must pay our way as citizens - wealthy and not-so-wealthy alike? Probably not until the country is so broke and destitute so as to not be able to afford to maintain the military strangleholds on the worlds choke points that it has now. Then, just maybe, some heroic and mythic political figure will emerge to drive renewed efforts for international economic sanity. But that is 200 years and several financial meltdowns into the future.

Read more: Tax Cutters Set Up Tomorrow's Fiscal Crisis

Simon Johnson is co-author of "13 Bankers: The Wall Street Takeover and the Next Financial Meltdown," is a professor at MIT's Sloan School of Management and a Bloomberg News columnist.

In general I am not a doom and gloomer, but anyone concerned over their fiscal responsibilities as a citizen must understand that we can't simply sell debt to run the country. To run the country by selling debt is one of the surest ways to economic ruin that I can imagine.


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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:05 AM
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1. What amazes me...
is that there is so LITTLE rational thought given to the economy.

I think we need to start with a vision...say..."A chicken in every pot" type of goal..and structure both fiscal and monetary policy to achieve that goal....the idea that we can, or for that matter that we SHOULD compete with semi-developed nations in wages and standard of living is absolutely insane...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:12 AM
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2. I hope you will cross post this in the Economy forum.
Post there usually stay visible for long time, and this needs to be seen.

He is,of course, absolutely correct.

"Guns and butter" never worked for very long.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:21 AM
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3. We are already buying our own debt. nt
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 02:56 PM
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4. Rabsorutely. It is an incestuous relationship. Basically free money, 0% loans from the fed, to
Edited on Thu Dec-23-10 02:56 PM by geckosfeet
investment banks etc. They buy federal bonds by the billions and sell them off for a cool free profit.

The fed gets their cut, the investment banks make their free money, the government keeps itself running for another day, and the American taxpayer gets left holding the bag.

Where have we seen this Texas two step before?
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