PADemD
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Thu Dec-23-10 08:55 AM
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Capital Blue Cross eliminates behavioral health coverage from individual plans, leaving thousands ou |
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"It was a business decision, said Cindy Hatcher, senior director of individual products at Capital Blue Cross." http://www.mcall.com/health/mc-behavioral-20101222,0,6295807.story
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Thu Dec-23-10 09:06 AM
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1. Good Morning and thank you for this info. |
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I expect other insurance comp. to follow suit, one way or the other. Insurers have 3 years left to figure out how to cherry pick their customers.
Note the words "individual products" used to describe coverage.
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Thu Dec-23-10 09:14 AM
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2. Thanks for posting this. |
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It affects many families and I have a feeling, more problems in the future for more families. As long as our system is designed to benefit for profit health insurance entities and non profit entities arranged in a for profit model format of sorts without patient care first, this is how it is.
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Thu Dec-23-10 09:30 AM
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3. Does this happen with single-payer systems? |
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Thu Dec-23-10 10:54 AM
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Some states in the past have dropped mental health from Medicaid, though Kennedy's bill from a couple of years ago now keeps them from doing that. But there's nothing inherent in the idea of single payer that makes it be less of a bastard than private companies.
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:05 PM
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9. Except maybe the profit motive |
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Since a single payer plan does not include profit for the administrator I would think that would make it less bastard like than privately administered plans.
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:20 PM
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10. The history of states and Medicaid argues against that |
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Profit, IMO, is far less important than a lot of this board thinks it is.
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:29 PM
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Are you asserting the states profit from medicaid? Admittedly, I am somewhat ignorant on the details.
Personally, I believe profit is the manna of greed.
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Thu Dec-23-10 01:10 PM
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15. No, I'm saying Medicaid has no profit motive at all |
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but it's capable of being just as evil as private insurance. For that matter, my insurance company is a not-for-profit, but my coverage isn't noticeably different from any of the for-profit insurance policies I've had.
But, what I meant was, Medicaid is a single-payer system that in some states has gone out of its way in the past to prevent people from receiving care (and doctors from receiving payment for that care).
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Thu Dec-23-10 09:39 AM
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4. In Minnesota, state laws prohibit stuff like that. Mental health |
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coverage is not optional in Minnesota. If your state doesn't have such a law, it's a good thing to bring up with your state legislators.
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Thu Dec-23-10 10:21 AM
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5. I was thinking the same thing. The article says in PA they must give mental health coverage.... |
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to "group" plans, so this is only for individual plans sold to individuals. They aren't covered by the laws.
You're correct that this should be taken up with the state legislators. Sure the insurers could still leave the coverage in there and are assholes, but they aren't any more to blame than the govt. that appears to have overlooked the individuals.
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Thu Dec-23-10 10:57 AM
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7. Well, mental illness doesn't really count. It's all in their heads. |
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Thu Dec-23-10 11:06 AM
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8. Dropping mental health coverage, nothing could go wrong with that one, right? |
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I mean, if someone is having some psychological problems and now can't see anyone because it is too expensive, that could never, ever, cause any problems for the rest of us, right?
:sarcasm:
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:22 PM
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11. Isn't this illegal? (Like it matter, lol) But, didn't we pass |
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a Mental Health Parity law a while back?
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:26 PM
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12. That was only for group coverage. |
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This is for individual. They can pretty much exclude whatever they want on individual policies.
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Thu Dec-23-10 12:32 PM
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14. Thank you. I don't think I ever knew that. n/t |
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