President Obama Leads Capitol Protest, Walker and Republicans Agree to Compromise

[MadBadger]

IS that the headline you would expect to see if Obama came to Wisconsin?

Please, it would be more like this.

Obama Sticks Nose in State Issue, Walker and Republicans galvanized against President

[Rex]

1. It is either win another million votes or lose another million votes.

IMO.

[tabatha]

5. Nonsense.

Walker's actions against the people are the biggest incentive for winning more than a million votes.

[Rex]

18. Let me be more clear to you.

If Obama goes, he gets millions of votes. If he doesn't go, he loses millions of votes was my point. Might not be true, but that is the way I see it. He goes...win-win. He doesn't go...lose-lose.

[Arkana]

37. Bull.

Obama would bring nothing to the table in Wisconsin. He's the leader of the federal government and there is nothing he could have done to prevent what has happened.

[WolfoftheWild]

43. those million are already going to vote against the Repukes.

[tabatha]

2. Absolutely.

I do not understand how people cannot see that.

[flamingdem]

7. It's sad that there is a chorus on DU that blames Obama on every issue

on this one they are so wrong since Obama needs the unions to win in 2012 and has obviously supported the unions all along.

[Angry Dragon]

14. Then explain how he lets duncan go around the country

and lets him dismantle teacher unions........

[flamingdem]

24. That is another ballgame

and I don't know the answers on that, haven't followed the intricacies.

[Angry Dragon]

32. You were the one that said he supported unions all along

I was just showing you how he has not when it came to teachers
Teachers are under attack right now in Wisconsin........

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Arne Duncan has been on a crusade TO DISMANTLE teachers unions

and replace them with CHOICE and Teach for America kids. They are well meaning, the kids that is, but far from fully trained teachers.

So tell me exactly how THAT IS PRO UNION?

Trust me, those of us who are well aware of LABOR ISSUES know the bullshit... and so do LABOR LEADERS.

The only reason Obama will get SOME union support is that the alternative is that far MORE TOXIC.

Wake up and smell the coffee. POTUS is a RIGHT WING (By any objective political science analysis) politico. Granted, he is center right, live with it, while the Republcians are FAR RIGHT... as in RADICAL RIGHT.

He don't get a paass from me. I will vote for him, reluctancly, but work for him? You crazy?

[phleshdef]

3. The only thing the President could lend is moral support and it could backfire either way.

At this point, I'm inclined to say that he should get involved, just to shut people up if nothing else. Aside from that, there is nothing else his involvement would achieve. Union members are all ready galvanized. People are all ready aware and pissed off.

[JuniperLea]

23. I don't believe in giving grease to the squeeky wheel...

Otherwise I'd agree with you on this. Let 'em whine and bawl... it only makes them look ridic.

[flamingdem]

4. Are you from WI, please inform DU about the attitude towards Obama in WI now

I suspect that there is support for Obama because he supports unions.

[MadBadger]

6. Not from the state, attended UW Madison for four years.

So I cant tell you what the state as a whole feels about him. I do know the Students are quite big fans.

[krawhitham]

15. I'm in Ohio and that same thing is happening here

and guess what, it is not his fault

[flamingdem]

22. good luck fighting back in Ohio!! nt

[Viking12]

27. This WI Dem is not a big Obama fan and is glad he's not here.

We'd probably end up with another tax cut for the corporate interests that are waging war on the state's middle-class.

[Arkana]

38. Last approval poll I saw said 55% approval for him in Wisconsin.

[krawhitham]

8. You are correct, it is a STATE ISSUE

Maybe people should have voted instead of sitting on their ass bitching about Obama on the internet


Obama does not have a magic want that he is refusing to use

[Fearless]

16. His support would provide Democrats with a united front.

Pretending like this isn't happening will get him in trouble in 2012.

[krawhitham]

30. He went on TV and said it was nothing but an "assault on unions"

That is all he could do in the public eye


Now if you believe the GOP in WI they claim Obama's advisers behind the recall campaign ‎

[Fearless]

45. Link?

And it doesn't matter what the GOP thinks. The American People are on our side.

[Arkana]

39. He's not pretending it isn't happening--you're just choosing not to listen

to what he's already said.

[Fearless]

44. Link?

[Arkana]

46. Gladly, you sanctimonious jerk.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/02/obama-on-wisconsin-budget-protests-an-assault-on-workers.html

[Tatiana]

9. That would never be a headline because the Republicans would never agree to a real compromise.

In fact, if anything, the working people might have some of their most important rights negotiated from underneath them.

I hope the President stays away.

The Wisconsin Dems have truly demonstrated inspired leadership and loyalty to their working class and poor constituents. I am hoping that the example they've set continues to spread across this nation.

People in all these states under attack need to rise up and make the sacrifice to keep up the pressure until THE OTHER SIDE caves.

[Fearless]

10. Bullshit! Support your union workers. It doesn't matter what the Rethugs tell you is right.

[liberal N proud]

11. The right wing media would have a field day if he even brought it up

All the discussions here about the media would criticize Obama regardless of what he would do, yet people can't see this.

:shrug:

[Skip_In_Boulder]

12. Yea, if he did that the Republicanistas might talk bad about us

We should defiantly cower under a rock.

[Ninga]

13. Our President is in part, our moral leader. He is the President and it's up to him

to figure out how convey his support. Hedging bets to figure out how this will play out is not moral leadership.

So far, it's been *crickets*....

[michaz]

17. I am really trying to decide which way I feel about this.

Part of me says, don't campaign on something you are not going to follow through on and the other part says maybe it could be a problem if he came out. Then again, I guess the saying, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" might be coming into play here. If this last statement is the way it really is then I would go with my moral and heart-felt beliefs and I guess that with that thought, I would at the very least be making some sort of comment to show how extremely upset I was over this whole damn mess.

[grasswire]

20. I'm afraid he is already going with his moral beliefs.

Time for us to smell the coffee.

[lame54]

19. you're right - that's a great reason to be afraid...

"But, they will say mean things about me"

[MadBadger]

25. Labor is winning this argument and the best they could ever hope for is to Recall the Motherfuckers

They have galvanized the public to support their belief and they will need the public in order ro recall Walker. Obama coming would only hurt their cause. THis wouldnt be about the Workers of Wisconsin vs the Fascist Republicans, it would be about Obama overstepping his boundaries(not my belief).

[lame54]

28. i don't see that they are winning...

and Obama has not only not shown up
he did this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x600018

[MadBadger]

29. There will be recall after recall. The public has moved strongly in support of Labor

Based on last night's actions, it was clear that we were never going to "win" the way you would define as "winning" There was no way for us to stop their illegal action. They could have done what they did last night at any time and they finally acted.

[lame54]

31. it's still not clear that there actions were illegal

[MadBadger]

34. They clearly violated the Open Meetings Law.

And the whole time they have stated that Collective bargaining is a fiscal issue, only to say last night its not. If its determined it is, then the bill is illegal.

[joeybee12]

21. No: "Obama in WI, gets 14 dems to return and capitulate"

That's what he'd do.

[HereSince1628]

26. Like starting circular firing squads, eh?

[fasttense]

33. I don't believe either of those headlines would happen.

Because RepubliCONS have already blamed Obama for this. And Obama response was to pull away from the Unions, which is exactly what the RepubliCONS wanted.

Obama should stand in solidarity with the Unions since they got him elected. But he need not walk with the protesters to do that. He merely needs to say words to the affect that Walker and the RepubliCONS are trying to destroy the middle class through destruction of the Unions. He needs to merely support the Unions.

But instead he backs off because he is afraid of what RepubliCONS will say. Those RepubliCONS he is appeasing right now are NEVER going to vote for him even if Obama murdered all the liberals in the US.

I think he should look at appeasing the people who voted for him.

[dennis4868]

35. The SIEU....

have praised Obama for his support through all of this and the unions have actually asked Obama to stay out of this for now...

[MadBadger]

36. SEIU

Dont give anybody ammunition

[NoTimeToulouse]

41. Obama did say that he would.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9KC8SMu3o">Here

[EC]

42. You're right

There are a ton of "States rights" people here that would be up in arms. I do think he should send reps here to the rallies. Like Hilde or someone of that caliber.