Jesse Jackson just led a prayer in the Assembly

[itsrobert]

He had Democrats hold hand with Republicans. The prayer was a backward stab at the republicans, but I don't think the Republicans realized it.

[snappyturtle]

1. Good to know but how did you learn of this? nt

[1776Forever]

4. It was on Twitter:

Rev Jesse Jackson leads assembly in prayer, asks God to intervene on proceedings. Assembly session proceeding.

[snappyturtle]

15. Thank you. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. It was on twitter, buhunbug! So I have been told by some

here.

It is not tripple sourced, hence no news!

:sarcasm:

[bluestateguy]

2. Good for him

I hope there is no complaining from the atheist faction.

The sniping and wiseass remarks on this board during the prayers at the Tuscon memorial was an embarasssment.

[truebrit71]

3. Yup, Atheists should just shut the fuck up and stay at the back of the bus right?

How open minded and progressive of you :sarcasm:

[bobbolink]

7. Thank you for illustrating the point.

For all of your attacks, Christians on this board have NEVER attacked you for your beliefs.

Could you please return the same consideration?

Thank you.

[truebrit71]

11. "all of my attacks" Say what?

???

[bobbolink]

12. Are you familiar with the PLURAL of "you" and "your"????

Stop being coy.

You KNOW that all of you atheists come here all the time and attack people of faith.

Just have the maturity to admit it, because your post shows exactly what is being talked about.

We are ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, and please remember that when you (PLURAL) are feeling the need to attack someone.

[truebrit71]

21. So you have no single specific example of me attacking people of faith so you tar me with the same.,

..brush?

How mighty christian of you :sarcasm:

[bobbolink]

22. I am *not* a "Christian" so your words of attack don't sting.

You are illustrating exactly what many of us at DU have come to despise.

I thank you for that.

[truebrit71]

25. I stand corrected. However you still haven't answered why you attacked me personally...

...and then lumped me into another group and tarred me with the same brush your faith has deemed we require...

I used to have 'faith' too.

Then I woke up.

[CLANG]

47. I guess they don't understand the sarcasm smiley thingy.

[yodermon]

8. no, people should be respectful of other people.

You know, kindergarten level stuff.

[bobbolink]

13. !!

:applause:

[roguevalley]

17. if you go back to the civil rights movement you will see religious

people of all persuasions at the front of marches and they were hurt as badly as anyone else. we should salute ALLl the people who step up and do what they can, RELIGIOUS OR NOT. the people who are religious who step up are showing you who the true followers of Jesus are. The pharisees that made this pain are as far from the love of Jesus and God as we are from Alpha Centauri. Celebrate bravery for whatever motivates moves people to take risk. Put the petty crap, the bickering, the aethiest v believer shit aside. these people ALL rule, those who stand up for those of us who can't or won't. Good on ALL of them. Martin Luther King was a Christian minister. It gave him strength to change the world. What anyone thinks about that is irrelevent. He stood up and took the risk FOR ALL OF US just like these people. Celebrate them, god damn it.

[Marnie]

31. You intetionally avoid the point being made by the article

and the comment.

Snark at other commenters if you must but at least stick to the point under discussion.

[Bill McBlueState]

14. way to throw the first stone

I'm sure your god would be proud.

[roguevalley]

18. this isn't about you or me. this is about the bravery of the people

TAKING THE RISK NO MATTER WHAT THEIR MOTIVATION! Why can't people just be fucking civil?

[Ignis]

24. Just like that complaining from the gay faction over McClurkin, right?

Those uppity factions should really know their places, and STFU when Real Americans are doing the important business of representing other Real Americans in government.

:puke:

[demmiblue]

5. Not the place for prayer, IMO.

:shrug:

[JuniperLea]

9. I agree...

Give unto Caesar and all that rot... even Jesus wanted a separation of church and state.

If you bend for one religion, you must bend for all religions.

[sweetapogee]

34. ok

or none

[JuniperLea]

42. That would be my vote

That's why I'm set against any legislation that stems from someone's religious "morals" because it's either all religions, or none... and I choose none in my government.

[undeterred]

6. They let a Black Man in the Capitol with Wisconsin Repukes?

Thank God they haven't passed the concealed carry law yet.

[Pacifist Patriot]

10. I like Jesse Jackson, but I just cannot find prayer in a political forum appropriate.

[roguevalley]

19. fortunately during the civil rights movement they didn't agree.

I am 100% for separation of church and state but if you are going to stick you neck out for the common good I don't care what you personally believe.

[Pacifist Patriot]

28. I apologize, but I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

I'm not calling anyone's beliefs into question. I have no problem with invocations at rallies, protests, marches, etc. I just don't happen to find them appropriate in legislative settings. I don't particularly care for prayer during the presidential inauguration or other civic rituals either. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate what the individual delivering the prayer or invocation has or can accomplish.

[roguevalley]

37. you and i agree. I apologize for not being more clear

[bobbolink]

26. I wish you luck getting rid of it. You are aware that the D.C. Senate (and House too) begins

each day with prayer, right?

While I wish that wasn't the tradition, picking on THIS example is very silly.

[Pacifist Patriot]

27. I'm not picking on anything, Nor am I actively trying to get rid of it.

I just don't personally find it appropriate. Which is a little ironic considering it's not uncommon for me to get calls requesting I deliver a public invocation for various county governmental departments. After doing one years ago I now routinely decline, politely of course.

[Obamanaut]

16. I thought public prayer, especially in a political setting was frowned upon.

Why are there people supporting this - is it because it was Jesse Jackson and not a local citizen, someone unknown outside of his own little circle?

Would this be the time to remind people of the NT admonition to do prayers in quiet, and alone rather than on the street corners?

[bobbolink]

29. Have you watched C-Span lately? Do you not know that the Senate and House begin every day with

prayer?

What is it now that Jesse Jackson is not OK to do a prayer, when it is customary for ALL these legislative bodies to do so?

[Obamanaut]

35. With the outcry against it, right here on DU, why do some here say that

it is fine for J.J., but not fine for schools, sporting events, school board meetings, etc.? Similarly, some here say prayers in those legislative bodies you mentioned should cease also.

And besides, you said you were putting me on ignore not too long ago.

[bobbolink]

36. HELLO!!!

The point IS.... every legislative body opens with prayer.

Complaining about Jesse Jackson is just silly.

[Obamanaut]

38. HELLO BACK! My complaint is not about JJ or legislative bodies or

school boards or town councils or any other Tom, Dick, or Harry opening a session with a prayer, chant, pigeon sacrifice, or toad disemboweling.

I am pointing out an inconsistency. JJ can lead a prayer in public, ostensibly a political gathering for protest, rather than going privately as is mentioned in the New Testament (a tidbit pointed out here on DU frequently) and it is fine because JJ is a celebrity who is also a democrat.

Let someone who is not both a democrat AND a celebrity and the outrage is deafening.

People will accept anything from other people who agree with them.

I guess I am officially off ignore? Oh yay! My life is whole again.

[bobbolink]

39. Political PRAYERS happen in PUBLIC all the time, by celebrities or NON

FAIL.

[Obamanaut]

40. Do you read at all, or just type. I know public prayers happen all the time and

I have no issue with that.

I'll type slowly this time. When there are threads about prayers in a public/political venue, and there are OPs about these prayers here on DU, there are numerous responses saying how wrong that is.

EXCEPT WHEN IT IS A PRAYER BY A CELEBRITY/PUBLIC PERSON WHOM WE LIKE, then it is OK.

The prayer is not my point, the inconsistency here is.

That seemed easy to me.

[bobbolink]

43. I *LOVE* your insults, and have deeply missed them. They add soooo much.

I'm sure your hero is proud of your clever insults to others in his name.

I concede the obvious... you are indeed superior, and I bow to your elevated status.

You don't hear me, and I understand and accept that. Because you don't hear, you feel a need to insult and humiliate.

That will gain a lot of votes for your candidate come next election.

[Obamanaut]

45. And yet you refuse to address the inconsistency - the whole 'prayer

in government is bad' vs 'a guy we like leads a prayer in a political venue so this is a good thing.'

Why is that?

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[fittosurvive]

30. A backstabbing prayer...? That's an interesting analysis.

Prayers definitely aren't what they used to be.

[LanternWaste]

32. Sure they are

"Prayers definitely aren't what they used to be..."

Sure they are-- a comfort to the believers, and a light, however subtle, shining on the hypocrites. A rose by any reported name is still as sweet.

[fittosurvive]

33. Interesting description. I was taught that the purpose of a prayer was to

try to establish a rapport with God in an effort to effect a moral and honorable outcome for all.

[LanternWaste]

46. I imagine different beliefs have different definitions.

I imagine different beliefs have different definitions. :shrug:

[JokerAllstar]

41. I'm going to pray too...not that Walker and the Koch Brothers will be affected by it though

[Dappleganger]

44. Did he call for direct lightning strikes?

I'm sure that God doesn't need a gps to locate those asshole repukes.