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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:44 PM
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I will vote for Obama, will even work for him, but I'm disappointed in him right now
At a time when workers and others are fighting for their rights in Wisconsin and other states (Ohio, Indiana,etc) the Obama White House should be more forthright in supporting workers and protecting long cherished rights from the extreme right wing of the GOP. The Administration will say it's a state issue--and really it isn't. This attack on workers is happening across the country by Republican Governors & legislatures. It is a national issue--and the national media is focusing on it.

Beyond that I would like to see the president more visible in taking on the GOP in congress who insist on unreasonable cuts. Instead, time and time I keep hearing about the administration reaching out and saying they will find more cuts. I'd like the president to take to the bloody pulpit and talk about values and protecting the most vulnerable in our society and call the Republicans out on their lies.

I've been a strong supporter of this president and believe he has many fine qualities and have supported a number of things he has accomplished. But he needs to be more engaged in the fights of our times. If JFK, a president who also represented change, was attacked by many for going slow on civil rights, then Barack Obama is rightly being criticized for being AWOL during one of the great labor unrests in decades.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:46 PM
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1. this shocks me
Wow, if a die-hard Obama supporter feels this way, something has gone terribly wrong for the president.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:47 PM
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2. He's afraid of what Beck, Rush, and the repuke legislators will say.
His heart is in the right place, but he's too scared to do anything.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:25 PM
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17. You believe him to be a coward?
Look... I understand. You love the guy. He is a very charismatic fellow. You, we, voted for him. maybe campaigned for him.

We did so HOPING that he would not bring more of the same, and that maybe this time the outsider really was an actually outsider. Or, perhaps, that he would care so much about leaving a real legacy that he would tell the Owner's to get fucked.

The truth is that none of that happened. He is sticking with the crew that elected him, and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush, and Reagan, and, and, and....

It doesn't mean he isn't a nice guy. Not at all. But he isn't YOUR nice guy, he is THEIR nice guy.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:06 PM
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20. He said he didn't mind being a one-term president..
..so why not go for it. Fight the mutherfuckers!

Rethugs always get what they want. It doesn't matter if they're the majority or the minority.
they always run the fucking show.

I'm so over it! :banghead:
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:48 PM
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3. I'm with you 100%. It is the perfect moment for Obama to take a strong stand.
An opportunity lost.
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:48 PM
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4. This moment defines him. He either keeps a simple campaign promise or doesn't.
It doesn't take 60 votes in the Senate. It doesn't take a House majority.

No excuses on this one. This takes a few hours and a pair of shoes.

He either keeps a campaign promise or he doesn't. Simple.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:48 PM
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5. Obama has the same problem alot of video games have
they are over hyped. People where lead to believe Obama was the second coming of Christ and that he would fix every one of our social, political and economical problems, when in fact he is just a man with the same downfalls of ever other man. The ironic thing is ALL of our social, political, and economical problems, EVERY SINGLE ONE of them, can be traced back to the right wing.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:59 PM
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10. True, but was FDR overhyped? We have had extraordinary leaders in terrible times
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:04 PM
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14. FDR was one in a trillion
and if FDR was around today with all corporate media, he would not be able to do half of what he did.
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NoTimeToulouse Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:00 PM
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11. Over hyped through his own words.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 03:01 PM by NoTimeToulouse
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:49 PM
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6. And he knows you will do this.
That's the problem he knows most democrats will do just this, regardless of our level of disappointment in him. Which is why he is placing the bet he is placing and has been placing the past year. He or some team of experts of his choosing have likely done all the models of statistics that need to be done and determined that he can piss off "the base" and as many democratic constituencies he wants and they'll still only lose a certain amount of voters especially as long as the Republicans continue being as bat shit crazy as they are. And he's betting that by puffing up his "moderate" chest that he can pick up more supposed independents and maybe a few moderate republicans than he will lose democrats.

So sadly, while we can blame him (and we should) for many things, the more accurate blame goes squarely on the shoulders of those of us who will let him/them get away with it because they know we'll still vote for them and maybe even work for or donate to them (I'll do the first, but definitely not the other two).
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:49 PM
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7. I completely agree with you (as usual) WI_DEM...
I have really been depressed since the news broke last night.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:55 PM
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8. I think it is best for Obama to stay out of the WI fight right now
It's a bottom-up uprising not a top down one.
The grassroots,protesters, unions, CEM 14, Feingold, Michael Moore, etc. are doing an excellent job so far.
If Obama gets involved the dynamics would change.

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NoTimeToulouse Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:57 PM
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9. Many abused spouses feel the same way about their abuser.

Now would they marry that same spouse again and again?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:00 PM
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12. Thats what happens when you have the be all to everyone complex, it fails every time.
He has painted the floor but left no wiggle room to get out. He better start firing like gang busters. The teabagger, birthers, and the rest of the ilk are going to start swing harder and harder. There has been an organized campaign to sink him since 1/20/08.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:01 PM
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13. A message from President Obama
From Twitter...

PressSec: POTUS says we must come together & set aside partisanship to fix our budgets. Actions last night in #Wisconsin violate those principles.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:04 PM
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15. that's very good...
but I would like him to go before the cameras and say it.
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pinkkillersheep Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:07 PM
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16. We don't have a choice.
Until yesterday, I maintained that this is a state issue. You know if he said anything beyond that one interview he would get slammed by the right wing media machine. But at this point, with so many states pushing similar legislation, it's time to at least SAY something. I don't think I'd have him go into Wisconsin, but he should at least release some kind of statement.

Nevertheless, as disappointing as his behavior is, I can't imagine what it would be like to have any of the potential Republican candidates as president. So yes, I will campaign for him. But it's incredibly obvious that since we care, we don't matter.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:27 PM
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18. I will vote for Obama but I will not work for him.
Nor will I donate to the national party.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:45 PM
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19. Agreed. I busted my ass for him last election and gave til it hurt. Not happening
This time. Not at all.
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