We should be PROTESTING Obama, not asking for his support

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

He is doing the same thing at the federal level.

Cut taxes, gut social programs...all while wasting billions on wars and no bid contracts that are off limits as far as the budget.



This revolution is just getting started, and it's moving to DC.

[mike_c]

1. kicking for solidarity....

rec'd

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[Howler]

2. K&R

K&R

[emulatorloo]

3. Source for your graphic?

Additionally I have no idea what the original context is.

[BadgerKid]

47. Here's how to fish....

On some web sites, you can possibly take the URL of the image, truncate it at the right place, paste that into a new browser window or tab, and then be taken to the correct page.

Didn't work for me in this case, so I did the following:

Right-click image. Copy Image Location.
Paste into Google.
Examine one of the links (here, the first one to edschultz.invisionzone.com works).
Click link in the article.
Voila!

Or just go to www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/tax_breaks_infographic.html

:hi:

[emulatorloo]

68. Good tip! n/t

[Monique1]

4. Time to get rid of Obama

Let's see - what repugs and teabaggers can we nominate?

[ehrnst]

16. Yeah - let's elect Palin and Bachmann. That'll show Obama, huh. (nt)

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

30. that does not work as an excuse on intelligent people.

we need to hold our leaders accountable, not make excuses.

[muriel_volestrangler]

105. 'Intelligent people'? You show us the Republican budget, say it's Obama's, and claim you have

anything to do with 'intelligent people'?

:rofl:

Bye-bye.

[markpkessinger]

33. Oh, please...

The meme that the only choices we have are to accept the status quo with Mr. Corporate Lite (Obama) or accept something worse in the form of Tea Party loons is part of what is keeping us EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE!

[ReggieVeggie]

63. such a lame response

"Be satisfied with your bread and water!"

[AngryOldDem]

81. Is there any way that we can retire this lame old meme?

As the man who I have as my avatar said, "The buck stops here."

We elected Obama; we should be able to hold him accountable, especially as we watch nearly a century of social progress (that came at the cost of a lot of blood and lives) go swirling slowly down the drain with virtually no comment from our Commander in Chief, who, strangely enough, was labor's best friend during the campaign.

Throwing out "Palin/Bachmann" as a threat is just the same as telling a kid the monster in his closet will get him if he doesn't behave. That may work for 10 minutes or so, but the kid eventually sees through it for the empty words that it is.

[roguevalley]

96. agreed. I thought I was voting for Harry Truman when I voted for

for President Carebear. Sigh. I can remember Harry. You really don't know what you're missing. Dems with a spine. What a novel concept.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

37. I said PROTEST Obama!

You see, during FDR's time, is wasn't him who made the changes, it was WE the PEOPLE that DEMANDED the government work for US so they had to throw us a bone.

Bush,Obama and the Walker governors are working very hard to repeal the gains of the working people from that time.

[emulatorloo]

41. "Bush,Obama and the Walker governors are working very hard to repeal the gains of the working people

BS

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

46. why does Obama pretend that entitlements are connected to the deficit

Social Security is fully funded on it's own with FICA taxes and SEPARATE from the deficit. The problem is are taking the Social Security money and spending it on war and tax cuts, and now they don't want to pay it back.

Why does Obama participate in this lie?

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[dkofos]

5. We don't have the money, so he's not listening.

[ProSense]

6. Um

that's the House budget.

[emulatorloo]

8. So OP is claiming BOEHNER's Budget is Obama's Budget?

[Itchinjim]

14. DU is not concerned with facts when it come to bashing Obama

Most would rather fed the trolls

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

36. Did Obama cut taxes? Is he supporting the war machine?

Is he pretending that we need to cut entitlements because of the deficit?

[SidDithers]

40. Is the graphic in your OP the House budget or Obama's budget?...nt

Sid

[young but wise]

12. People don't seem to care much about facts.

[walldude]

109. Well like most of the "accomplishments" you list

which are half done half baked and half promises, lets see if the Administration lets these cuts go through. Then it will be Obama's budget.


But I digress, he held firm on that 3% tax increase for the wealthy, and he didn't let those bastards keep their capitol gains tax at 15 fucking percent so I'm sure he'll come through on this one for us. :eyes:

[joeybee12]

7. He's just screwing us over quietly...

as opposed to being loud like the Repukes.

[Edweird]

9. Did you see the pics of him in his swimtrunks in the Gulf? Did you get that memo?

Besides, FAR RIGHT policy is the new 'progressive'.

[DrDan]

10. great analysis - where did you get it

[emulatorloo]

11. Link here - BUT IT IS A GRAPHIC OF THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE BUDGET

it is not Obama's Budget

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/tax_breaks_infographic.html

[Historic NY]

19. +10.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

24. When Obama stops blaming entitlements for the deficit

I will believe he will do what is right.

So far he said he has met the republican half way and he is prepared to go further.

All evidence points to Obama doing exactly what the Republicans want.

If you have evidence otherwise, I would like to see it.

[hfojvt]

44. but we're not supposed to complain until it actually happens

Until then, it is just speculation.

Then, once it is water under the damn, and it is too late to do anything about it, we will be told to stop living in the past.

Hakuna matata. The Lion King slashes your face and then moves on. No worries. Those cuts in your face? - already in the past.

[hfojvt]

39. but Obama has already agreed to the right hand column

although the numbers there seem low to me. I put the one year cost of tax cuts to the rich at at least $140 billion, but that would probably include the top two brackets and not just the top one.

Obama has already signed one extension that made some cuts. He is likely to come up with a 'compromise' that give the Republicans at least 90% of what they want.

[emulatorloo]

45. Is that the Republican budget or not? DU is meaningless without intellectual honesty

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

48. Has Obama already compromised with the Republicans against our wishes time and time again

you see I have evidence of past trends and you have ??

[SidDithers]

42. Amazing...

:banghead:

Sid

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[Modern_Matthew]

17. But he only has the highest office in all the land. His hands are tied!

:sarcasm:

[sabrina 1]

18. Could you add a link to show where this chart came from?

I agree he is far too willing to cut programs, but we need a link to see where this came from, thank you.

[emulatorloo]

20. Here;

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/tax_breaks_infographic.html

Infographic: Tax Breaks vs. Budget Cuts
By Donna Cooper | February 22, 2011

OP is misrepresting it by suggesting this is Obama's budget, when the graphic is based on the REPUBLICAN BUDGET

[sabrina 1]

56. Okay, thank you ~

[Historic NY]

21. go up to line eleven.

[sabrina 1]

58. Just got the link, will do that, thank you ~

[Hissyspit]

22. Center For American Progress:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/tax_breaks_infographic.html

[emulatorloo]

27. And is it of the Republican House Budget

[sabrina 1]

57. Got it, thank you ~

[GoCubsGo]

26. Daily Kos posted it yesterday.

I don't have the link, but I'm sure it's still there. It was posted here, as well. BTW, it is the GOP's budget, not the President's.

[emulatorloo]

35. "BTW, it is the GOP's budget, not the President's" - doesn't matter to the recommenders

Apparently this is now on the Greatest Page.

[Shiver]

23. Crap, brain fart.

Can someone unrec this for me? I accidentally hit 'recommend'.

Additionally, Obama isn't the one trying to fuck over my state. Walker and the Repugs are, and that is whom I have been protesting. Obama has given the type of support I want (although a little more statements would be nice). The people can handle this themselves.

Also, stop lying with the graphic. That's the House budget.

[GoCubsGo]

34. Already did.

It's a really misleading post, considering those figures are not even the President's budget. They are the ones the repugs put out.

[blogslut]

25. I see what u did thar

Now it's going to blow up in your face.

[MineralMan]

28. That's the Republican's budget.

Read more. Make fewer mistakes. Uff da!

[Scurrilous]

29. We?

:rofl:

[BlueIris]

31. The discrepancy in your OP is pretty staggering.

And that's the reality of what he is allowing to happen. Horrifying.

[emulatorloo]

38. The original post is dishonest

I don;t know whether it is intentional or not though because I can't read his or her mind.

[SidDithers]

43. Unrec for dishonesty in the OP...nt

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

49. Is Obama standing up saying that he will not go along with this?

Why did he do everything else they wanted?



Again, why is he pretending Social Security has anything to do with the deficit?

Social Security is safe,it is fully funded separately with FICA taxes. They should not have given the money away to wars, bankers and tax cuts, and now they don't want to pay it back so they are LYING!

Please someone who defends Obama...explain this to me!

[blogslut]

51. You first

Explain why you posted the Republican House budget and called it Obama's.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

59. Because he supports this BS with his rhetoric

He is preparing to cut social security benefits....

[blogslut]

61. Link please

Oh, and thanks for admitting that you posted the Republican House budget and called it Obama's.

[SidDithers]

54. Why don't you explain why you're presenting an article from...

the Center for American Progress, detailing program cuts proposed by the House Leadership, as coming from Obama?

Sid

[MilesColtrane]

50. Hey, that's just like Fox News when they show stock footage of a Republican Congressman...

who's been caught stealing and they put a "D" next to his name.


You'd better report back to Mr. Ailes that we aren't buying that shit.

[SidDithers]

55. If you look very, very closely at the graphic in the OP...

you can see palm trees.

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

65. Show me the Democratic Plan- this is the only budget plan I could find

Does anyone know how democrats plan on fixing the deficit with their tax cuts, continued wars and spending on Homeland Security?

[MilesColtrane]

67. "Show me the Democratic Plan..."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/budget.pdf

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

72. since you have read through it

why don't you tell me who is going to 'feel the pain' for the budget cuts?

The military industrial complex?

Homeland Security?

A new tax on the bankers perhaps?

[MilesColtrane]

83. You have a bad habit of wanting others to do your homework.

Welcome to Ignoreville

Population: You

[Godhumor]

88. I don't think you'll have to worry about ignore with this one for much longer

n/t

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

Do you know what is in Obama's budget

this is stunning that not one of you people attacking me will present any real facts, talking points, ANYTHING from his amazing budget you keep telling me to read.

Don't you all get better training than that. No wonder the GOP is winning the message of memes, they have Karl Rove and we have ??

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

107. here is some reading for you

Obama Budget Proposal: Cuts To Target Working Poor, Middle Class & Students

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/13/obama-budget-proposal-cut_n_822689.html

[damntexdem]

52. Nonsense. We should protest his lack of support.

But we should nevertheless demand it.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

53. The President does what the GOP want every time! Some people can see the near future

based on the very recent past.

We should probably not wait until after they cut off the poor people, ya think?

[blogslut]

60. Can you explain why

You posted a graphic of the Republican House budget and called it Obama's?

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

62. This is the only budget plan I have. Has one been released from Democrats?

They don't bother anymore. They just react to what the Republican do, complain a little, and then go along with it.

[SidDithers]

64. Shouldn't you find the answer to that questions yourself...

before trying to pass of Boehner's budget as Obama's?

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

69. Where is Obama's budget? He never creates the debate, he just follows their lead

no one here knows what his plan is either
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x607459

[SidDithers]

71. Do your own research...nt

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

73. so you have no idea either

:rofl:

[SidDithers]

77. Oh, I know exactly where to find Obama's budget proposal...

it's you who's shitting the bed with this dishonest thread.

Sid

[blogslut]

78. Here you go

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

You know, it made the news and everything. Were you out of the country?

[SidDithers]

80. My god! Whoever would have thought to look at wihtehouse.gov...

for the President's budget proposal?

You must be some kind of internet genius!

:thumbsup:

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

84. did you read it

I'm really dumb so could you put it in simple terms for me?

Who is going to 'feel the pain'?

[SidDithers]

85. Do your own homework...nt

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

92. As a supporter of Obama's budget, I suggest you learn the facts so you can present them better

you know, get some better talking points, not just 'do your own homework'

[SidDithers]

95. Hey skippy, how do you know I'm a supporter of Obama's budget...

I've not made any comments about the budget in this thread. I've only commented on your dishonest OP, and your expectation that the answers you want be spoon-fed to you.

Do your own research.

Sid

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

101. tell me what it says oh great one with knowledge I cannot comprehend

n/t

[SidDithers]

102. Do your own homework...nt

Sid

[Godhumor]

66. You could go look at Obama's actual proposed budget, you know.

It was discussed quite widely here.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

70. where?

??

[Godhumor]

76. Oh I dunno, maybe try whitehouse.gov?

You know, the actual site for the presidential office.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

87. I can't understand- I am only 10

please explain to me so I can tell my class

who is going to 'feel the pain' in Obama's budget?

How can he fix the budget while giving tax cuts and continuing the wars and wasteful spending on the Department of Homeland Security?

[SidDithers]

89. .

[Godhumor]

90. How about you admit to your teacher you have no clue how to do research

And just attributed to Obama the Republican plan. Of course, you expect the rest of us to now fix your errors.

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

97. why don't you admit you don't know Obama's budget, nor does anyone else

Where is the Democratic plan for cutting the deficit without touching tax cuts, wars, HS spending?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x607459


Just like me, no one is getting the talking points on how the Democrats are going to fix anything without just cutting off the poor.

[Godhumor]

99. Really, the time spent posting angry (and very ignorant) replies would be better used actually

Looking at his proposed budget because:

It doesn't touch social security

It cuts significant portions of the budget for both wars

It cuts the budget of the pentagon

It permanently sunsets the tax cuts for the wealthy in 2012.

Please, go look at the website, take a breath, and at the very least read the executive summary.

[blogslut]

86. Are you aware of the way Congress works?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

91. yes, when the dems are in power they pretend like they have no power and do what repubs want

when the republican are in power, they let them do whatever they want, vote with them, then whine about the consequences and how there was nothing they could do.

[blogslut]

93. okay

you have fun with your agenda

[Poboy]

74. Welcome to DU!

[SidDithers]

75. Funny how anti-Obama dishonesty goes to the Greatest Page...nt

Sid

[Godhumor]

79. How the hell is calling the Republican plan Obama's getting rec'd up?

This is unreal.

[SidDithers]

82. Because the dishonesty fits the meme...

and many posters don't bother to verify.

Sid

[Wait Wut]

100. No kidding.

This place is insane. Anything antiObama lures the reccing crew. No need to actually research and factcheck, just rec, k&r and use lots of exclamation points. Don't forget the...

:grouphug: for solidarity.

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[grahamhgreen]

106. Because, HCR was a give away to big insurance, the bailout for banksters is

a travesty,and the tax cuts for the rich are a joke, and we're still torturing people and still in Iraqistan.

And now, silence instead of EFCA.

Don't bother with the lame excuses, they are not facts, they are excuses.

[Bobbie Jo]

114. Mission Accomplished. nt

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[tammywammy]

110. Unrec for calling the Republican House budget Obama's

Misleading.

[pinto]

111. (aside) As noted, this is the House (R) proposal. When citing data, it's always best

to cite the source, as well. Helps to keep discussions on point and on track. :hi:

[Agony]

112. Jesus Christ people wake up! this OP is crap! stop reccing!

that's the REPUKE budget! not Obama's

[Bobbie Jo]

113. It doesn't matter anymore....

Too. Far. Gone.