WI Troopers asking for legal protection from "illegal" use of State Patrol by the Governor

[highplainsdem]

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WLEA: Troopers asking for legal protection from "illegal" use of State Patrol by the Governor #wiunion
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#WI Troopers: Gov. is barred from using State Patrol “in any dispute... concerning wages, hours, labor, or working conditions.” #wiunion
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The WLEA is the Wisconsin Law Enforcement Association:

http://www.wlea.org/

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Just asked hubby, family is police

they are getting ready to disobey ilegal orders.

[aquart]

5. Wow.

[midnight]

8. At rightly they should obey illegal orders....

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. But lawyers are now lined up to protect them

[midnight]

67. O boy... this should of said And rightly they shouldn't obey

illegal orders....

[CLANG]

80. I just saw your correction. What a relief!!

[CLANG]

79. You don't really mean that do you?

[roguevalley]

28. and when you think that no one can change the world, no one

who is small and anonymous, they are the ones who always do. God bless them all.

[Marnie]

84. But are they really legal orders if the justification for the order

is based on illegal or extralegal logic?

Good for the the state troopers and local police who realize that there first responsibility is to keep the peace and their next is to protect the citizens.

Hopefully the national guard is also looking into whether or not they can be used for things like aggressive crowd control if that action is based one quasi-legal acts of the Governor or his associates.

Hopefully the Dims and unions will be able to get the state level courts to put stays on the implementations of some of these back door in the dark of the night laws that are being passed, to give an opportunity to determine if they are actually legal or not.
Much less than to give the public a chance to find out what is in the bills that have been passed.

[Zorra]

85. Civil disobedience by law enforcement in opposition to a tyrant

is historically a key element in the overthrow of tyranny.

This is so great to see.

[malaise]

2. Get thee to the greatest page

This is very important

[truedelphi]

3. Go Wisconsin Go.

Yeah Badger State!

[emulatorloo]

4. Excellent - REC

[JackintheGreen]

6. K&R for visibility

[tallahasseedem]

7. Recommended...

When they start losing the troopers they're REALLY in trouble.

[brentspeak]

9. Watch as Walker hires Blackwater mercs as his personal security detail

As well as a throng of brownshirts.

[Cleita]

13. He could but they would have really not much

authority and the minute any tear gas or bullets are emptied into a crowd, there will be war.

[Tansy_Gold]

27. "There will be war."

You can bet on it.

When those who are capable of declaring war wish to do so, just about nothing can stop them.


Remember the boooosh administration in March 2003. . . .



TG, TT

[AsahinaKimi]

49. And Fox News will trip over themselves to cover it..

Like sharks to blood in the water.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

57. The governor is the USA's version of Mubarak

Fox might back off if this thing gets legs

[lark]

88. No way Faux or Reich Wing backs down on this

This is core to their ultimate aim of controlling all the wealth and having the rest of us be poor serfs. They are beyond the Middle Ages, at least then trade unions were appreciated. Rove knows this, that's why he's putting $750,000 in pro corporatists anti worker ads. He wouldn't do that unless it were extremely important to his and the reich wing goals.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

91. why isn't Rove in jail?

[CLANG]

81. They might want to spring for bulletproof vests.

[Aerows]

30. I'm beginning to think...

...that's exactly what Walker and his fellow Koch-roaches want.

[Cleita]

32. I'm sure they want that. Every thing they have done

up until now is to stir up violence on the part of the protestors, however, if the violence starts with them and all those people out there with cell phones document it, they will come off as the bad guys. Really, as long as the union protestors keep their cool, the Generalissmo and his legislature are painting themselves further and further into a corner, because everything they do from now on makes them look like banana republic dictators. I mean what if they try to cut off the internet and cell phone usage, even tea baggers aren't going to be able to justify that.

[Aerows]

36. Never underestimate the power of...

...the teabaggers to justify anything and everything a right-winger does. I've seen multiple posts by wingnuts HOPING for riots and violence.

If Walker called in Wackenhut and they started shooting protesters, and it was caught on cell phones, they would claim it was doctored. The sane 85% of American citizens, however, would put an end to Walker.

[Politicalboi]

39. Call in Wackenbutt

If they're not too busy drinking beer out of each other assholes.

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[LiberalEsto]

76. "Koch-roaches"

That's the best description of them that I've seen.

:rofl:

[valerief]

83. That truly is golden. nt

[AlbertCat]

77. He could but they would have really not much...

... pay. Who's gonna pay for the mercs if they're in such a financial bind? Can the Koch Bro's pay for things like that? And if so.... why don't they just bail out the whole state? (they already think they own it)

[russspeakeasy]

89. The Cocks only pay for meeting rooms, bus rides and tv time.

[cyberpj]

42. I remember a post from years ago about Blackwater training local police as part of their

"Homeland Security" protection education programs. Many states were paying for that service.

[Beartracks]

55. Sounds like "Attack of the Clones"

You just described the gist of how the clone army was activated for the purported purpose of "saving" the Republic.

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[pansypoo53219]

51. he got wackenhut for milw.

so i think he'll call them.

[dragonlady]

62. But our state is broke! Where would he get the money?

Why, by taking even more away from BadgerCare and schools. No problem.

[KurtNYC]

74. I think he prefers the vodka guys n/t

[Buenaventura]

75. snott has a history of that

- not backwater, he hired G4S (wackenhut) in milwaukee

[Cleita]

11. Great! Without a militia (police, sheriffs and troopers)

wannabe tyrants have no power. Please let those in uniform defy this would be dictator.

[Myrina]

14. Oh, he's got a militia ...

The Koch-Wackenhut Militia that he used in Milwaukee County. They'd be glad to step in and break some heads for $10/hr.

[Cleita]

16. He has to get the legislature to agree to this.

If they do go in illegally and break heads then the protestors will be in the right to fight back. Not only that the Koch militia will be fighting against the regular police and sheriffs who for the most part are with the union protestors.

[Myrina]

19. And that's been SOOOOOO hard to do, right?

Laws, practices and anything else that gets in their way really doesn't mean squat to them at this point.

Or have you not noticed that?

[Cleita]

21. Don't worry. They are not getting away with any of this.

The courts are already being appealed to and recalls are in the works. If they should send Wackenhut or Xe out there, those mercenaries will be fighting regular cops, sheriffs and troopers with a stake in their state. If they make the first move to crack heads as you say, there will be war. I don't think even Gov. Wanker is that stupid.

[aquart]

29. He hasn't, despite threats, called out the Nat'l Guard.

[socialist_n_TN]

53. I think he's afraid to. I think he knows that they won't obey

his illegal orders. The NG, even more so than the police and as part of the US military, KNOW their obligation to DISOBEY illegal orders.

[keroro gunsou]

65. you're wrong

he IS that stupid. i've met him and spoken to him. the light is on, but no one is home. perfect tool for teh koch brothers.

[Demeter]

71. I Wish I Had Your Confidence

Walker has walked off the cliff, like Wiley Coyote, and is now walking on air...when he looks down, he will be crashing to the bottom of the canyon...

[iwishiwas]

72. I hope you are right.-metaphorically of course.

[EnviroBat]

78. I'd love to see the masses kick the living shit out of these private

mercenaries. I'd be right there with them. These clowns are NOT law enforcement officials. They are nothing more than bought and paid for domestic terrorists. I would never recognize them as having any authority over anyone or anything.

[gkhouston]

48. I wonder if they'll get a bonus when the real police arrest them for breaking heads. n/t

[loudsue]

73. $10/hr my ass. Wackenhut pays their mercenaries far more than that.

Once any service is "privatized" the tax dollars get sucked up by the bank-vault. In combat zones, which Madison would become, these dudes make a minimum of $500/da.

[Poboy]

12. R'd

[MNBrewer]

15. It's so awesome to see the police refuse to be used as a tool of political enforcement

I know that laws are influenced by politics, but to try to use the police force as an arm of a political party, as in this case...

It's good to see push back

[Jackpine Radical]

25. I have no doubt that the State Patrol deeply resents their new leader,

Pappy Fitzgerald.

I also have no doubt that their sentiments are with the protestors.

The Patrol has 2 major duties--as traffic cops and as the Governor's escorts. They're not really into crowd control and the like in the ordinary course of things.

Funny we've heard nothing about the National Guard yet. My bet is that either the top brass has warned Walker off or he understands that they will be Federalized if he tries to use them as a political tool.

[MNBrewer]

Use the National Guard? I wish he would try!

Bring things to a nice FROTHY head! Let's get things sorted out!!!

[Jackpine Radical]

37. Guardsmen are even less likely than cops to put up with Walker's nonsense.

And we all know how well that cop business turned out for him.

[MNBrewer]

38. I concur

[Historic NY]

52. many guardsman are cops, fireman & correction officers...

[QC]

40. Obama could nationalize the Wisconsin guard to keep that from happening,

but that would mean taking a side, so it's not likely to happen.

[madrchsod]

45. Scottie would have to ask obama

for permission to use the national guard in this circumstance. contrary to scottie, obama is in charge of wisconsin`s national guard.

[tpsbmam]

63. Not a good idea anyway....

He should if things really get out of hand but to do it as a preventative measure will just feed into the whole right-wing nutbag conspiracy theory #4: Obama is trying to destroy the country, silence his opponents, use his private army to gain control of the country, throw teabaggers/conservatives/Rethugs into FEMA concentration camps, blah blah blah blah.

I don't give a shit what they think but the nutcases have the establishment Rethugs hopping every time they say hop -- it's just not worth it unless it becomes absolutely necessary. You know what his reaction would be if they started to have hissy fits....

[felix_numinous]

17. K & R

[buddysmellgood]

18. Awesome!

[myrna minx]

20. K&R n/t

[Drale]

22. Did Scott Walker even bother to look at the laws

before he decided to run for office?

[Jackpine Radical]

26. Laws are for the Little People--Scott Helmsley.

I mean Leona Walker--

He sure as hell didn't read any before he screwed up Milwaukee County with his attempts at union busting there.

Don't be so hard on him. He never graduated college, ya know.

[Drale]

31. Snap

If you where ever kicked out of college for cheating, that should preclude you from ever running for office. Kind of like being a felon. Just saying.

[Enthusiast]

70. Law doesn't matter any longer.

Look around. Wall Street malfeasance for example.

[donco]

23. who are they

asking, the rehub ag?

[Wisconsin_2_Nation]

24. great news!

:applause:

[Waiting For Everyman]

33. K&R

[Kingofalldems]

34. K and R all threads freepers will hate

[dkofos]

35. Just refuse to obey an unlawful order.

It worked in the military.

[hwmnbn]

41. K&R

[madrchsod]

43. .they will have to have to present a criminal arrest warrant....

signed by a judge in wisconsin then present that order to an illinois court for extradition to wisconsin. of course the 14 can appeal that order and stay in illinois till the case is resolved. of course they would have to find the 14 first and that maybe hard thing to do...

illinois is a big state with a lot of democrats that would put them up for a few days

[gkhouston]

47. No kidding. I've got some relatives there, although the Dems would be in danger

of putting on weight. That side of the family can cook!

[xmas74]

59. And think of all the other states they could travel to.

Just drive over the border-I'm sure there are pockets in every state that would gladly put them up in their own homes for a week or two at a time.

I know places in the Ozarks and in the north woods in the U.P. (Upper Michigan) that would be almost impossible to find them.

[Snoutport]

44. wow!

when the police stand with the people, the other side has lost.

[L. Coyote]

46. Is there a crime count page somewhere for Scott Walker?

[pam4water]

50. A bit lat now :(

[deacon]

56. And get that tractorcade on the move. Kick + R

[Cieran_WI]

58. k&r

[Kurovski]

60. K&R. (nt)

[WillyT]

61. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[Tx4obama]

64. K & R n/t

[Major Hogwash]

66. Who does Walker think he is? Willie Stark?

"All the King's Men" (1949)
Starring Broderick Crawford.

With
John Ireland ... Jack Burden
Joanne Dru ... Anne Stanton
John Derek ... Tom Stark
Mercedes McCambridge ... Sadie Burke

Shepperd Strudwick ... Adam Stanton
Ralph Dumke ... Tiny Duffy
Anne Seymour ... Mrs. Lucy Stark
Katherine Warren ... Mrs. Burden (as Katharine Warren)
Raymond Greenleaf ... Judge Monte Stanton
Walter Burke ... Sugar Boy
Will Wright ... Dolph Pillsbury
Grandon Rhodes ... Floyd McEvoy

[glinda]

68. Shouldn't the issue be Walker's mental state? I think easily proved he is crazy.

[indimuse]

69. here we go.. n/t

[iwishiwas]

90. Lets hope so.

[lutefisk]

82. I am so proud of Wisconsin Law Enforcement Officers!

From the Madison Police Officer sleeping in the Capitol with the protesters to the Dane County Sheriff pulling his Deputies off "Palace Guard" duty to the stands take by the WLEA and the State Patrol, the Madison Firefighters... there are so many examples of men and women of character setting an example for all of us. Even if we go down in the end, people from every profession, every walk of life, showed what they're made of...

[drm604]

86. K&R

:kick:

[Borchkins]

87. K&R

I'll be watching for the tractors. My son is in a play at the Overture Center tomorrow, so between showings of the "Surprising Story of the Three Little Pigs" I'll be at the capitol.
B

[Cherchez la Femme]

92. Do you happen to have a

direct link? I went to the site, plugged in "Illegal" & "Walker" & did not get a story that looked like this...


K & R of course!

[Viking12]

93. Try this one

http://www.thewheelerreport.com/releases/March11/0310/0310wlea.pdf