Walker: Union Bill's Changes 'Are Indeed Fiscal'

[deminks]

(snip)

Later, Walker discussed the surprise maneuver launched by Republicans Wednesday night, in which the original budget repair bill was broken apart to allow for the passage of Walker's anti-union provisions on their own. The original budget repair bill had required a three-fifths quorum before heading to a vote -- a quorum that was successfully blocked by Senate Democrats having left the state. But on Wednesday the Republicans put the anti-union provisions into another bill - and quickly passed it without the need for a three-fifths quorum.

"We followed the law, and yet it allows us to move forward with these reforms -- which are indeed fiscal," said Walker. "They're not in conflict with that requirement for a quorum, but they are indeed fiscal. They give a fiscal benefit to the state, for the remainder of the year it'll allow us to save 30m, which allows us to save 1500 jobs, and for the next two years thereafter in the next budget it gives us the equivalent of $300 million worth of savings, which allows us to save 5-6,000 jobs."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/walker-union-bills-changes-are-indeed-fiscal.php?ref=fpb#

emphasis mine

This is one of the key points to the illegality of the moves made by the Wisconsin Senate last night, and Dicktater Walker just admitted that the moves were illegal. Fiscal items must be approved with a 3/5 majority. (unless something has changed since this morning).

[Drale]

1. I just heard that on WGN

He also claims that everything they did was legal so now he's lying. Its time for some laws that do not allow elected politicians to lie ,with drastic consequences.

[fittosurvive]

2. Fiscal means $.

If $ were taken out of the bill, it was not a fiscal bill.

Having said that, I have no idea what was in the final bill that passed.

[BzaDem]

3. Unfortunately, the constitutional definition of fiscal is quite narrow.

The constitution only requires a super quorum for bills that increase appropriations, modify taxes, or incur a debt to the state. All other fiscal measures don't need a super quorum.

It might very well be the case that they left OTHER non-collective-bargaining provisions in the bill that do meet this definition. If a court finds this, the bill will be struck down. But there is no way the collective bargaining provisions themselves require a super quorum (without anything else) -- according to the Democratic state senators.

[Webster Green]

4. If he does it, it's not illegal.

Reminds me of Nixon, though he was far to the left of Snotty and his gang of thugs.