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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 08:54 AM Original message |
Nuke plants and earthquakes, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. kick n/t |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. "teeter on the edge of complete disaster"?... |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "Details? We don't need no steenkin details. " - Homer |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:13 AM Original message |
When cooling systems fail and evacuations are ordered, |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Just the hyperbole radiating from this reactor is enough to destroy the entire solar system! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. No, not hysteria, just tritium |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Oh please... bringing up tritium leaks actually proves that "hysteria" was the correct call. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Really? How so? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Nope... it just says that I have more of a scientific background |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Ah, the old "scientific background" card. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Worked scrubbing the floors maybe? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. This should be good... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Not a chance. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. Straight up eh, OK, how's this for straight up |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. A simple "no, I can't" would have sufficed. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Don't mean it to be personal, yet you keep making it personal |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
80. No... you're taking it personal. There's a difference. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Project much? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Nope. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. More radiation in a banana than at Vermont Yankee "ground zero" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Oh, I'm sure there is more radiation at Vermont Yankee than in a banana, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Actually about 1/27 of that in a banana. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Except for the fact that the levels have risen since that initial test |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Actually, safer than just about everything. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Crickets? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. The federal standards for drinking water aren't the line between "dangerous" and "not". |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
91. I'm wearing a watch that uses tritium right now ... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Run! |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:33 AM Original message |
to everyone downwind of Chernobyl, Tritium was the LEAST of their worries. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
49. Indeed cuz. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. True |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. We now have our resident expert, Sid, to answer any questions... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You recall incorrectly... |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
100. Sid, go look it up, you were in denial |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Post the link where I said Deepwater wouldn't be as big as Valdez... |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Here ya go.... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Without even looking, I can tell you that your answer to #1 is wrong... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. And #2 is laughable. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. "No known emergency plans"... |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
99. No, oh arrogant one, but... |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. So, Sid, you cheated from your answer |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. No, I didn't cheat... |
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Rabblevox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. I was beaten and jailed trying to stop Diablo Canyon in the 80's (we failed) and it was only built.. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I was jailed for trying to stop Callaway in the late seventies, |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I'm sorry Rabblevox. I know how you feel. |
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Rabblevox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. no cutting of throats. agreed. sorry for the hyperbole. (but I still don't know what to do next) |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't think anyone has the answers about now. If we keep discussing, |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Thank you for trying to make a difference. I appreciate you! |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. We had the police break into our motel room while we were sleeping. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R! |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. This is exactly why I am AGAINST nuclear power. I don't care how clean people say it is - it's NOT. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Well that certainly trumps the science. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. The SCIENCE is that nuclear radiation is one of the worst forms of pollution... |
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pickle juice (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Fossil fuel burning power units have produced far more carcinogens |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. And the truth is we don't need to use either fossil fuel or nuclear anymore, |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
62. No that's not true |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. What exactly is nuclear radiation by the way? |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. nuke alternatives |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Green renewables can provide for all our energy needs, |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
92. how much would it cost |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
15. Chernobyl |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
41. chenoybyl |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. And, as industry shills like to tell us, Chernobyl shows the system WORKED! |
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TheMightyFavog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
75. Not to mention the design of the reactor itself |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. The perils inherent to hyrdo-electric: |
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CommonSensePLZ (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
78. Aww |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
16. We Sure Do Love Some Nuclear Hyperbole |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. We who? You have a mouse in your pocket? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Oh I get the picture all right |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Whoops, there it is, you are demonstrating your ignorance again. |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. how many people in the US has nuclear power killed? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Solar and wind cost less than nukes, |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
96. show me reliable scientific evidence |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
19. kick n/t |
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pickle juice (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. What's a nuclear fault? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It is a typo on my part, and it is too late to go back and correct it. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
28. Water and fire and falling debris kills thousands of people... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "anti-nuke fear-mongering" when one, possibly two nuclear reactors might go bang... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. So if now, when we've got cores teetering on the bring of meltdown, isn't a time to be alarmed, |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Hyperbole much? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. The simple fact of the matter is that if they don't have fresh, cool water getting to that core, |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. And is there a reason to believe that they CAN'T get water to the core |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
67. yup we have k+r |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. reference |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. the irrational nuclear fear |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. One of their nuke plants actually caught on fire (in japan) |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The fire was in the turbine building, not the reactor...nt |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Sorry, is that not close enough for you? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Shouldn't make a difference |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. All it would take is a sustained work stoppage or to cut off water to the cooling towers. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. Meltdown =! explosion |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. "Teeter on the edge of complete disaster"? Nonsense. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. And yet apparently they have no new cooling water getting to their core, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. The reactor has been shut down. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And even in the best of times and ideal circumstances it takes days for a core to cool down |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Backup coolling was restored 7 hours ago |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Still sounds like a dicey situation, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. It is. Leak possible. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. More than possible at this point. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
70. I live near the nuclear Diablo Canyon plant. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
71. "US Air Force transports coolant to nuclear reactor hit by giant Japan earthquake".... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. 'Assuring us there is no problem' is the job of govt forces. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Yes... but that doesn't leave any room for it to BE true. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. When you have three reactors that could meltdown at anytime |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
97. I saw a scary movie in the 70's. Nuclear power is bad! |
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