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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:06 AM
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Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro wouldn't it be smarter to be friends with these guys?
How much oil could we bring in from our neighbors to the south? Wouldn't it decrease our need for middle eastern crude by a high percentage?
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:08 AM
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1. That kind of thinking is why the US
Is in bed with the Saudi Royals, propped up the Shah of Iran, and other dictators.

How about we give the whole "lets be friends with dictators because they have oil" idea a miss this time?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:09 AM
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2. The royals aren't a form of dictator?
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:10 AM
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3. They are. That's my whole point
We are friends with dictator because they have oil. Bad idea then, bad idea now. Why continue it?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:23 AM
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7. Until our automakers make an affordable electric car we are in need of what those
dictators have.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:25 AM
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9. When Venezuela and Cuba were dictatorships. they were our friends.
LOL
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:11 AM
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4. They don't want anything to do with capitalism so I doubt seriously if they'd be
open to our overtures

To answer your question yes it would have but that window of opportunity has closed.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:23 AM
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6. Apparently a good deal of their output already comes here
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:24 AM
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8. Then we should bump that up from 5 to 1.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:33 AM
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10. Apparently Chavez would prefer that it go in the opposite direction
He wants to boost sales to China and reduce the percentage of Venezuelan oil that goes to the US.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:17 AM
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5. Don't think it matters one whit
The meme that the US is 'dependent' on middle eastern oil is actually true, but not for the reasons that people think. The US doesn't use very much middle eastern oil - much of it goes to the rest of the developed and developing world. Our top three sources are (in order) domestic, Canada, and Mexico - we buy from plenty of other places as well. We're dependent on it in the sense that since oil is fungible, it's all one market in the end, so what happens in the middle east (where there is indeed a lot of oil), affects the price everywhere else.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:55 AM
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11. From a citizen perspective yes, but from a capitalist perspective......
absolutely not. They are the enemy, pure and simple. If even a few of their ideas caught on it would cost the wealthy billions and that is a non starter.
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