Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Texas Considers Bill to Ban Almost All Abortions

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:52 PM
Original message
Texas Considers Bill to Ban Almost All Abortions
from Mother Jones:



Texas Considers Bill to Ban Almost All Abortions

— By Tim Murphy
| Fri Mar. 11, 2011 1:04 PM PST.


From the Texas Independent:

House Bill 2988 by state Rep. Tan Parker (R-Flower Mound) would prohibit abortions from being performed unless a physician determines there is a substantial risk to the woman's life or a major body function. Parker's bill comes on the heels of a bill by state Rep. George Lavender (R-Texarkana) banning abortions except in cases of medical necessity, rape or incest.


Among other things, Parker's bill makes no exception for cases of rape or incest, an exception that's long been considered untouchable even by many pro-lifers. It also explicitly prohibits physicians from considering possible impairments to mental health. A spokesperson for Rep. Parker told Mother Jones that the legislator "does intend to include if it moves through the process." But they're not included in the version that was filed on Thursday because Parker didn't actually write the bill; it was drafted at the behest of the Grass Roots Institute of Texas, an organization founded by conservative activist Bill Burch.

In February, Burch floated a similar bill in the Lone Star State that would establish that life "begins at the moment that the initial splitting of a human cell occurs during fertilization," explaining at the time that his bill "will eliminate abortion in the United States" by giving the Supreme Court a chance to overturn Roe v. Wade. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/03/texas-moves-ban-abortions-case-rape-incest



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:54 PM
Response to Original message
2. Would that hold up under RoevWade?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Do you notice what's going on? They don't give a shit if it holds up or not.
Law and constitution clearly means nothing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Thats not what I was asking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. these proposed laws are meant as a challenge to Roe
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. No it wouldn't.
But it will be a long drawn out battle before the Supreme Court ever hears it...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Chances are it'll be shot down in the circuit courts.
I doubt the SCOTUS will even choose to hear it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. correct
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. Hopefully it doesn't even go that far. Maybe it won't pass...
They have to know it's a waste of time...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #2
17. His hope is to get the Supreme Court to overturn Roe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:01 PM
Response to Original message
3. So it's YES to "anchor babies"?
I get so confused about the positions the RW takes regarding motherhood.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. It's yes to punishing women (and their partners.) nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. You didn't know children are a woman's punishment for sex?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:06 PM
Response to Original message
6. I always thought it was stupid and hypocritical to claim to be "pro-life"
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:06 PM by NYC Liberal
and make an exception for rape or incest. Now, I'm pro-choice all the way. But it seems to me if you think abortion is murder, then it wouldn't matter if the baby was the product of rape or incest since biologically they would be no different than any other. If you are "pro-life" then why the exception? (Health of the mother is a different story.)

If you want to call yourself pro-life and say abortion is murder, then do it all the way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:06 PM
Response to Original message
7. Why does this not surprise me? The GOP has got total control of
the government in Texas. The culture battle is over in Texas and the Fundies have won. I think there maybe an oasis of Progressives that may be under siege in Austin. Both the House and the State Senate have Republican Super Majorities, the Governor is a Republican, the State Board of Education is full of Fundies, they are rewriting the text books to meet their own view of everything. It is a right to work state so there are no such things as public employee unions. The Good Ole Boys are in charge and they are going to do things their way.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. I feel so bad for my patients-to-be.
self-induced abortions will be back.These fucking "Pro-life" hypocrites.

They truly sicken me the more I live here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:09 PM
Response to Original message
9. Of course they will never succeed in banning abortion...
...what they will do, however, is make it illegal again, and therefore unsafe. We'll go back to the times when women died due to unsafe abortions performed by themselves or their friends or unscrupulous or inept back-alley abortionists.

And of course, the exceptions for a woman's health will be stripped away, because really, a woman's primary value is her ability to produce offspring, right? So her health is not ever the primary consideration, is it? How selfish of a woman to consider her own life before that of an unborn child, even if that child is deformed, or will be born dead, or carrying it will almost certainly kill her. How dare she reject her own primary purpose for being! If it is her fate to die from a tubal pregnancy, well, the Good Lord works in mysterious ways...

And when girls and women start dying again, for all these various reasons, their fathers and mothers, their brothers and sisters and husbands and friends will sit up and take notice, and a few of them will say Whatever were we thinking? But the damage will be done.

Shame, shame on the American Taliban. They are so disgustingly mean-spirited and ignorant it makes me want to spit. But shame, too, on all the young women who don't want to be seen as "feminists / feminazis" and who think they don't need to stand up for this right, who think there are compromises to be made in this area. They will find out the hard way that this right has NOTHING to do with being "pro-abortion" and EVERYTHING to do with women's basic human rights.

I hope my dystopian vision does not come to pass, but then again, I never thought I'd live to see the unions busted down to the point they are now, either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Good post. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:19 PM
Response to Original message
11. yup, keep those job creation bills coming!
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:19 PM by tigereye

:crazy:


Clearly I need to send more money to Planned Parenthood.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:28 PM
Response to Original message
19. You can tell an election year is approaching
by how much of this shit starts flowing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 01:54 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC