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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:39 AM
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Live English stream from Japan
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:44 AM
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1. Nuclear reactor is not damaged at all.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:44 AM
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2. Hydrogen contained between container and concrete caused the explosion.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:53 AM
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11. This is what BBC was saying hours ago...
#
1016: The BBC's environment correspondent Roger Harrabin says he understands the blast at the nuclear plant may have been caused by a hydrogen explosion - also one of the possibilities laid out by Walt Patterson of Chatham House. "If nuclear fuel rods overheat and then come into contact with water, this produces a large amount of highly-flammable hydrogen gas which can then ignite," our correspondent says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:45 AM
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3. No effect on radiation release. After the explosion the radiation went down.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:46 AM
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4. 2:00 PM we released pressure which caused the radiation to go up.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:01 AM
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24. temporarily. the reactor isn't affected, levels have gone down since the release.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:47 AM
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5. So be calm / think calmly. (Bad translation, going to stop now.)
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:48 AM
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6. Going to cool it with 'ocean water'?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:49 AM
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7. Bad translation, but they appear very very confident that the reactor CONTAINMENT VESSEL is fine.
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 06:58 AM by joshcryer
edit: caps to clarify, not the "reactor as a whole" obiously it will be billions of dollars of repairs
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:52 AM
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8. So did the Russians, four days in.
Just saying.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:52 AM
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10. Cite?
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:54 AM
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15. No - seems definitely going with 'ocean water. Then asked about risks
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 06:55 AM by jannyk
of doing this. Answered 'this has yet to be analyzed'

edit:typo
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:56 AM
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17. Yeah, caught that in post #12.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:56 AM
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18. Yes!
What I've been waiting to hear! Unless another source contradicts this I think I'll finally be able to get some sleep.

Much love everyone, and stay safe. :)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:52 AM
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9. I don't like that mixed signal. "Don't mean to minimize evac. plan, so please follow evac orders."
PARAPHRASED.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:53 AM
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13. We have a proverb here
Make sure better than cock sure.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:54 AM
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14. You're right, If they're going with the Big Lie strategy, they should follow it through...
Reactor is undamaged.... :rofl:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:55 AM
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16. Reactor / container vessel mandated for every reactor after Chernobyl.
The reactor as a whole obviously is "not OK." Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:02 AM
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25. the containment is not the reactor.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:04 AM
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31. I'm having a really hard time with terminology because he's translating...
...and I'm not exactly sure what he's saying, so I'm trying to just say what he says exactly.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:53 AM
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12. Ahh, OK they're going to fill it with sea water. But they expanded evac. zone just in case.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:59 AM
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19. The released the vapor to lower risk of meltdown.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:00 AM
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20. That caused the increase in radiation. (2:00 PM)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:02 AM
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28. which went down following the release. had the reactor been damaged,
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 07:03 AM by Hannah Bell
levels would be increasing, not decreasing.

"by evening, radiation level went down to 70.5 micro SV from 1015, significantly dropped at 6:58 pm)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:07 AM
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33. Welp, now we know who was right...
Wow what a night.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 08:44 AM
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41. Three people exposed to radiation while
waiting to be airlifted
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:00 AM
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21. Unsure how it happened, but around 3:36PM hydrogen acumulated between...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:00 AM
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22. ...reactor container and outer concrete building. Oxygen got in and caused an explosion.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:01 AM
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23. ...but nuclear reactor itself (containment vessel) has no damage...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:02 AM
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26. No relationship between explosion and radiation. Radiation was released purposefully.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:02 AM
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27. ^- that's big, that means it's over, it's not continuing
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:08 AM
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34. They are saying that steady release of radiation release every hour ....the core is exposed..
the buildings roof and walls are GONE

exposure to 1 hr is eaual to max lifetime amount of REM
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:08 AM
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35. No.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:03 AM
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29. Radiation was 1015 microsevert, NOW it is 70.5 microsevert! At 6:58 PM.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:03 AM
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30. BBC had nuke expert saying Hydrogen Gas created if rods overheat
and then contact water.

"...also one of the possibilities laid out by Walt Patterson of Chatham House. "If nuclear fuel rods overheat and then come into contact with water, this produces a large amount of highly-flammable hydrogen gas which can then ignite," our correspondent says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:06 AM
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32. Radiation was 1015 microsevert at 3:26 PM, 860 at 3:40 PM, now it is 70.5 microsevert!
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 07:07 AM by joshcryer
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:20 AM
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36. Here's a Japanese link
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:21 AM
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37. Thanks. 40k viewers. Wow.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:28 AM
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38. We are fed up with the financial market talk
We are rescuing people. :applause:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:45 AM
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39. Three of the four trains were found
Don't know more than that
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 08:37 AM
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40. Three more aftershocks
in ten minutes.
Another quake in Nagano
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 08:49 AM
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42. people (# unknown) exposed to radiation if outside during explosion
were waiting to be evacuated from area.

Did you guys hear how many people?
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