Who do you support, the NFL owners or the players

[DainBramaged]

I don't watch football, not a fan, never realy was one. This morning I have ESPN on as filler, and I hear this one sentence by someone from the Players Association (now decertified, and apparantly something the owners feared).


"The owners refused to open their books for us to examine".


WTF are the owners afraid of? I thought these were pulic corporations, but I guess I was wrong.



"The owners refused to open their books for us to examine".



Who do you support, the players or the owners.


Or kitteh?

[hobbit709]

1. "If you've got nothing to hide, what are you afraid of"

May that RW line come back to haunt them

[slackmaster]

2. Thank you for avoiding the logical false dilemma by providing the Kitteh option

:kick:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

3. I for one am concerned the play this is still getting in the US media

Japan wiped everything off the headlines except this...much more important things to cover like Wisconsin

[randr]

4. I support the profit makers not the profit takers

[kudzu22]

28. Which is which?

[Jakes Progress]

5. Which group stood up with the unions in Wisconsin?

i don't watch football. Haven't seen a game since Don Meridith was a QB. But I believe I read that the Wisconsin players supported the unions in Madison. That being the case, I side with the players. Besides you rarely are right when you side with owners.

[onehandle]

6. Michael Vick accepted as a 'role model' knocks down my sympathy for players considerably.

Would America accept a 'reformed' Ted Bundy in the NFL if he had a good throwing arm?

But, Yes. I side with the players. At least most of them.

[DainBramaged]

7. The owners couldn't wait for him to return.......

[Zoeisright]

9. OJ Simpson did it for me.

And all of those people are filthy stinking rich. By playing a GAME. I don't have sympathy for ANY of them.

[onehandle]

10. At least they didn't rehire OJ. And I support the players on principal.

For organizing.

Yes, they are far overpaid.

[Swede]

8. Average NFL career is 5 years.

It is a brutal way to make a living. If the players can earn more for it,fine by me.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

17. They start at $320K/year minimum

and make more in five years than some workers do in a lifetime

[Swede]

23. With broken bodies and concussed brains.

nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

29. By their own choices

The league is actively working safety issues as well.

[JVS]

35. The players' union is the biggest curb on extending the season...

and thus preventing more injuries.

[JVS]

34. And they often need that amount of money to support a retirement that they need to take...

early because of the physical demands.

[w8liftinglady]

26. as I said before,I network with one and worked on his campaign

My kids learned about the goings-on in politics from working on his campaign.
Not all pro-footbal players are evil.Most worked their asses off.We start to sound like right-wingers when we bitch about their salaries.

[underpants]

11. BTW it is not a strike it is a lockout

[ProgressiveProfessor]

18. The union also decertified

It is an interesting tactic

[KittyWampus]

12. I support the Arts.

[rucky]

13. Kitteh never strikes...

when you're expecting it.

[Upton]

14. I support neither side..

I hold them both equally responsible, but since you didn't provide that option..I voted for the kitteh.

[Lady President]

15. Millionaires vs. Billionaires

I love football, but I'm not overly sympathetic to either.

[Johonny]

16. The owners won't even open their books, so this is easy

the owners are asking player to take a 1 billion dollar pay cut, play more games and not address the huge injury factor that leaves players with a low life expectancy. Yet they won't even show the real numbers and claim they need the money to build "new" stadiums even though we know they usually bride us the tax payer into building them. I support the players hands down. The owners didn't even try to give the players a fair deal. They want to stick it to them. * that.

[mvd]

21. Yeah, it's the pay cut in a profitable league and lack of injury..

concern that really gets me. I think they can reduce the pre-season since players get injured then and expand the season by two games IF they add another bye week. But the players deserve more of the pie.

[Ilsa]

25. +100. And I think the word is out that the owners

Are doing just fine, but they want more. Greedy bastards.

Actually, I think Jones is having trouble managing the finances on his new Cowboys stadium, but that's his fault for building that monstrosity.

[mvd]

19. The players. But..

I keep wishing all unions were as strong.

[BoWanZi]

20. I support the kitteh. I have no real interest in football.

[onethatcares]

22. why on earth would we distrust the owners?

Hell, they manage to grab whatever taxpayer handouts they can get to build thier memorials to themselves, charge outrageous prices and always threaten to move somewhere else if their demands aren't met.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

24. Don't care, there are few things this country wastes more resources on than Football

[HopeHoops]

27. It wouldn't bother me if they didn't come to a resolution. No loss in my mind.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

30. I agree with you there...

Professional sports are in many ways a fraud on young people who think there is a real possibility of having a career there. If they all went away tomorrow, I think we would be better off as a society

[Johonny]

31. but all of the arts and entertainment are the same way

so your world would have no painter, no actors, no musicians, etc... They all have lots of losers that can't support themselves on their craft alone and a few big, big winners. Yours is a boring world. I'm glad we have entertainers, even if most can't do it professionally.

[devils chaplain]

32. I support the kitteh, but...

My kitteh strikes quite fiercely when he's feeling feisty.

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I don't support either of them.

Professional football is useless, and they're ALL overpayed.

[JVS]

36. I side with the players.

Too many morons think this is about Payton Manning, Michael Vick, Tom Brady, etc. The point of collective bargaining for professional athletes is not superstars gathering together to get even more massive quantities. Those guys can make money through endorsements anyway. Michael Jordan made his fortune with Nike, not the Bulls. What collective bargaining among these players is about is making it so that none of the members of the team have to worry about money.