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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 11:46 AM Original message |
A question we need to ask ourselves re: Pres. Obama and Bradley Manning |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. The hero vs traitor is a straw man. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good point |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. I certainly wasn't faulting your concise, well stated post. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. My thoughts exactly n/t |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. +1 |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Bingo. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. K & R. n/t |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why is it so hard to understand... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It's not hard to understand, it's just wrong. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Excellent response! n/t |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I suggest you read this... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Then put THEM in solitary, naked. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. If there are murderous inmates there, then they are the ones |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. solitary confinement is ok then? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. well said- |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. No, it's not fine, I guess you missed my point. I am making THEIR |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 03:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. it that's what you meant to say, why did you not just SAY it? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 05:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. FYI--the Quantico brig doesn't have a general population... |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. so everyone there is in the same type of conditions |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Very well thought out and written.... thank you. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Thank you for those kind words! n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. A logical and hopefully thought provoking argument. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. K & R - very well stated. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
15. War, corporate welfare, and torture have become fashionable when "our" guy is in charge of it. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. the irony is, a Dem can get away with carrying the destructure further than the RW can. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. as far as I'm concerned it will never be fashonable, OR |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. Kick |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. again w/ rec |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. I would like to see the outrage against inhumane treatment for |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Good post. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. thank you- |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. And so where is your thread about them? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Why do you believe that expressing compassion for Manning |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Thank you n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. because of the appalling silence that has existed here and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. In my experience, anyway, the same people who call for blood |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. You used Jared L. as an example; now you allude to "low-profile" cases? Make up your mind. And start |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. I think the difference is that Manning's situation is political. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. You speak as if... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I'm sorry I haven't been able |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. You raise some very good and important points.... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Don't be daft. !. Jared L. murdered; 2. Bernie is a major thief; 3. Who says we have no compassion? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. if the use of solitary confinement is torture- |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
23. Very well put. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
30. Has there been a trial for treason? |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. No, Manning hasn't been tried for anything yet. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. The culture of fascism is so entrenched in the Defense Department |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thank you for articulating these essential points |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm a Bit More Cynical |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
47. Republicans in the Democratic Party |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
51. the "harm to self" argument is total bullshit. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I can tell you with absolute certainty |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. that's not my experience. and in my state... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I have direct experience behind my statement- |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 05:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. your opinion is wrong. |
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