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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:02 PM
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Meltdown Caused Nuke Plant Explosion: Safety Body in Japan
Sunday March 13, 2011
TOKYO (Nikkei)--The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said Saturday afternoon the explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant could only have been caused by a meltdown of the reactor core.

The same day, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501), which runs the plant, began to flood the damaged reactor with seawater to cool it down, resorting to measures that could rust the reactor and force the utility to scrap it.

Cesium and iodine, by-products of nuclear fission, were detected around the plant, which would make the explosion the worst accident in the roughly 50-year history of Japanese nuclear power generation.

An explosion was heard near the plant's No. 1 reactor about 3:30 p.m. and plumes of white smoke went up 10 minutes later. The ceiling of the building housing the reactor collapsed, according to information obtained by Fukushima prefectural authorities.

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JFF03.htm


This is what a Japanese news agency is reporting. :scared:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:03 PM
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1. wow, all these conflicting reports
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:04 PM
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2. there's no conflict. all reports say a meltdown started, that's what threw off the hydogen which
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:14 PM by Hannah Bell
exploded.

here's the translation from the japanese gov't rep:

there is some radiation leak outside the nuclear reactor, so there
has been core melt started & because of the extraction of the vapor that's how the radiation got leaked a little, up to 1015 micro SV right before the explosion --

after the explosion of the concrete block japanese nuke agency decided to use seawater as a seal of the reactor

started working on that at 8 am sunday 13 (japan time), completed at 1 pm

so...




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=624222&mesg_id=625155
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:21 PM
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11. They also added boric acid to the mix
to stop the reaction.

It seems to have worked since the radiation levels were reported dropping.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:06 PM
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3. Well, they cannot hide a massive radiation leak.
Other nations will pick it up as the radiation moves into the jet stream. I just read that the radiation levels are going down...and I choose to believe that, because if it is NOT TRUE - we will know in a few hours regardless of what is said.

Let us hope some of the reports are true and they have control over the situation.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:07 PM
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5. I do hope so
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:07 PM
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6. CNN is now reporting 3 people have tested positive for radiation poisoning
Somebody is not telling the truth.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:12 PM
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9. please link to that report so people can read it for themselves.

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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:13 PM
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10. I already opened a thread about it with the link included
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:22 PM
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12. ok, here it is. why do you come to the conclusion that "someone is lying"?
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:22 PM by Hannah Bell
1:20 p.m. ET, 3:20 a.m. Tokyo] Authorities have begun radiation exposure testing around Fukushima prefecture where three people - randomly selected out of a group of 90 - have tested positive for radiation poisoning, according to Japan's government broadcaster, NHK


the gov't has said:

1. the reactor started to melt down
2. they decided to vent pressure
3. hydrogen r/t meltdown + venting = contact with oxygen = explosion
4. explosion blew off the cement containment = radiation release
5. if there's radiation release, we can assume someone probably got exposed.

question is who, how much, where they were, how far exposure went.

reported that radiation readings at the site perimeter declined shortly after explosion & continued declining, currently 70 micro SV, down from 1015 at the height.

who is lying?

what is the lie?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:11 PM
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8. yes, we would even know by now if there was a massive nuclear release i think,
because japan is surrounded by monitoring stations in other countries.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:24 PM
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14. Yeah and it would be all over that countries news stations.
Not to say things cannot change, but for now it looks like they do have control over the situation.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:51 PM
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23. It takes a whille for winds and currents to disperse those materials. It may take days in some cases
yup
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:23 PM
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13. There wasn't one
The three workers exposed were at the plant.

This is a small reactor, and most of the radiation is contained. The explosion was not an explosion of the reactor itself, but of the hydrogen which was created when water hit the hot rods, which was then vented into the building as they vented pressure (steam).
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:24 PM
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16. Plus other countries in the region would be reporting a huge spike
in radiation.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:38 PM
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17. Your powers of Observation and Divination over half a world away are impressive
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:39 PM by Demeter
Not to mention the Pollyanna credulity of believing the Happy Talk.

And then there's the ability to "ignore" experts in favor of industry shills...quite admirable Corporate Behavior. You should go far.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:42 PM
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18. Try reading the TEPCO news
Here:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

Japan does have laws about correct information. Also there are outside monitoring stations. Also they are checking evacuees from both the Daini and Daiichi evacuation. It would take a while for any radiation to reach other countries, but they'd be picking it up on the evacuees if there had been some huge release.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:48 PM
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22. if the shills are shilling, we'll know very soon. for now, the threat of
complete meltdown & massive release seems to have been averted.

i don't give a damn how you feel about nuclear power, could you be pleased that it turned out better than you expected?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:45 PM
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20. not clear who those exposed workers were -- news report says they were randomly selected
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:46 PM by Hannah Bell
from a group of 90 -- no clue who the 90 were, either.

if no one was exposed it would be a miracle imo.

i'm just so glad that it didn't become a national or global incident, which it doesn't appear to have been.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:47 PM
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21. I think we should expect some people to get sick from radiation poisoning.
Just not the entire population or the rest of the world.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:26 PM
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27. I found this
http://www.greenaction-japan.org/modules/wordpress1/index.php?p=2
The 3 employees are hospitalized at the Futaba Kosei Hospital. One of them has “100,00 counts per minute” and the remaining two were found to be exposed at “30,000 to 40,000 counts per minute”. According to experts, these are levels that require decontamination. The three are thought to have been exposed when they were waiting at Futaba High School's open grounds for a Self Defense Force rescue helicopter to arrive at which time the explosion occurred at the Fukushima Dai-ichi Unit 1 reactor. It is determined that it is possible the other 60 hopitalized people and 30 employees, a total of 90 people, who were also waiting together to be rescued could have been exposed as well. Futaba High School is located 3.5 kilometers northwest of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant site.
(English translation: Aileen)

If it is true then more will test positive for exposure
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:07 PM
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4. Game Over
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 02:08 PM by Demeter
I'm trying desperately to find a silver lining to this--like a world-wide prohibition against nuclear power plants and immediate decommissioning and remediation of existing plants...but after Enrico Fermi, 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl, not to mention "incidents" from the 50's(!),

I despair of common sense and self-preservation EVER taking hold in the species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_nuclear_accidents

Scope of this article

In listing civilian nuclear accidents, the following criteria have been followed:

1. There must be well-attested and substantial health damage, property damage or contamination.
2. The damage must be related directly to radioactive material, not merely (for example) at a nuclear power plant.
3. To qualify as "civilian", the nuclear operation/material must be principally for non-military purposes.
4. The event should involve fissile material or a reactor.

1950s

* December 12, 1952 — INES Level 5 - Chalk River, Ontario, Canada - Reactor core damaged
o A reactor shutoff rod failure, combined with several operator errors, led to a major power excursion of more than double the reactor's rated output at AECL's NRX reactor. The operators purged the reactor's heavy water moderator, and the reaction stopped in under 30 seconds. A cover gas system failure led to hydrogen explosions, which severely damaged the reactor core. The fission products from approximately 30 kg of uranium were released through the reactor stack. Irradiated light-water coolant leaked from the damaged coolant circuit into the reactor building; some 4,000 cubic meters were pumped via pipeline to a disposal area to avoid contamination of the Ottawa River. Subsequent monitoring of surrounding water sources revealed no contamination. No immediate fatalities or injuries resulted from the incident; a 1982 followup study of exposed workers showed no long-term health effects. Future U.S. President Jimmy Carter, then a Lieutenant in the US Navy, was among the cleanup crew.<1><2>
* On 10 October 1957, the graphite core of a British nuclear reactor at Windscale, Cumberland (now Sellafield, Cumbria) caught fire, releasing substantial amounts of radioactive contamination into the surrounding area. The event, known as the Windscale fire was the worst nuclear accident in Great Britain.
* May 24, 1958 — INES Level needed - Chalk River, Ontario, Canada - Fuel damaged
o Due to inadequate cooling a damaged uranium fuel rod caught fire and was torn in two as it was being removed from the core at the NRU reactor. The fire was extinguished, but not before radioactive combustion products contaminated the interior of the reactor building and to a lesser degree, an area surrounding the laboratory site. Over 600 people were employed in the clean-up.<3><4>
* October 25, 1958 - INES Level needed - Vinča, Yugoslavia - Criticality excursion, irradiation of personnel
o During a subcritical counting experiment a power buildup went undetected at the Vinca Nuclear Institute's zero-power natural uranium heavy water moderated research reactor.<5> Saturation of radiation detection chambers gave the researchers false readings and the level of moderator in the reactor tank was raised triggering a criticality excursion which a researcher detected from the smell of ozone.<6> Six scientists received radiation doses between 200 to 400 rems <7> (p. 96). An experimental bone marrow transplant treatment was performed on all of them in France and five survived, despite the ultimate rejection of the marrow in all cases. A single woman among them later had a child without apparent complications. This was one of the first nuclear incidents investigated by then newly-formed IAEA.<8>

* July 26, 1959 — INES Level needed - Santa Susana Field Laboratory, California, United States - Partial meltdown
o A partial core meltdown took place when the Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE) experienced a power excursion that caused severe overheating of the reactor core, resulting in the melting of one-third of the nuclear fuel and significant releases of radioactive gases.<9>

1960s

* July 24, 1964 - INES Level needed - Charlestown, Rhode Island, United States - Criticality Accident

* An error by a worker at a United Nuclear Corporation fuel facility led to an accidental criticality. Robert Peabody, believing he was using a diluted uranium solution accidentally put concentrated solution into an agitation tank containing sodium carbonate. Peabody was exposed to 10,000rad (100Gy) of radiation and died two days later. Ninety minutes after the criticality, a plant manager and another administrator returned to the building and were exposed to 100rad (1Gy), but suffered no ill effects.<10><11>

* October 5, 1966 — INES Level needed - Monroe, Michigan, United States - Partial meltdown

* A sodium cooling system malfunction caused a partial meltdown at the Enrico Fermi demonstration nuclear breeder reactor (Enrico Fermi-1 fast breeder reactor). The accident was attributed to a zirconium fragment that obstructed a flow-guide in the sodium cooling system. Two of the 105 fuel assemblies melted during the incident, but no contamination was recorded outside the containment vessel.<12>

* Winter 1966-1967 (date unknown) – INES Level needed – location unknown – loss of coolant accident
o The Soviet icebreaker Lenin, the USSR’s first nuclear-powered surface ship, suffered a major accident (possibly a meltdown — exactly what happened remains a matter of controversy in the West) in one of its three reactors. To find the leak the crew broke through the concrete and steel radiation shield with sledgehammers, causing irreparable damage. It was rumored that around 30 of the crew were killed. The ship was abandoned for a year to allow radiation levels to drop before the three reactors were removed, to be dumped into the Tsivolko Fjord on the Kara Sea, along with 60% of the fuel elements packed in a separate container. The reactors were replaced with two new ones, and the ship re-entered service in 1970, serving until 1989.

* May 1967 — INES Level needed - Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, United Kingdom - Partial meltdown

* Graphite debris partially blocked a fuel channel causing a fuel element to melt and catch fire at the Chapelcross nuclear power station. Contamination was confined to the reactor core. The core was repaired and restarted in 1969, operating until the plant's shutdown in 2004.<13><14>

* January 21, 1969 — INES Level needed - Lucens, Canton of Vaud, Switzerland - Explosion

* A total loss of coolant led to a power excursion and explosion of an experimental nuclear reactor in a large cave at Lucens. The underground location of this reactor acted like a containment building and prevented any outside contamination. The cavern was heavily contaminated and was sealed. No injuries or fatalities resulted.<15><16>

1970s

* February 22, 1977 — INES Level 4 - Jaslovské Bohunice, Czechoslovakia - Fuel damaged

* Operators neglected to remove moisture absorbing materials from a fuel rod assembly before loading it into the KS 150 reactor at power plant A-1. The accident resulted in damaged fuel integrity, extensive corrosion damage of fuel cladding and release of radioactivity into the plant area. The affected reactor was decommissioned following this accident.<17>

* March 28, 1979 — INES Level 5 - Middletown, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, United States - Partial meltdown

* Equipment failures and worker mistakes contributed to a loss of coolant and a partial core meltdown at the Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station 15 km (9 miles) southeast of Harrisburg. While the reactor was extensively damaged on-site radiation exposure was under 100 millirems (less than annual exposure due to natural sources). Area residents received a smaller exposure of 1 millirem (10 µSv), or about 1/3 the dose from eating a banana per day for one year. There were no fatalities. Follow up radiological studies predict between zero and one long-term cancer fatality.<18><19><20>

See also: Three Mile Island accident

1980s

* March 13, 1980 - INES Level 4 - Orléans, France - Nuclear materials leak

* A brief power excursion in Reactor A2 led to a rupture of fuel bundles and a minor release (8 x 1010 Bq) of nuclear materials at the Saint-Laurent Nuclear Power Plant. The reactor was repaired and continued operation until its decommissioning in 1992.<21>

* March, 1981 — INES Level 2 - Tsuruga, Japan - Overexposure of workers

* More than 100 workers were exposed to doses of up to 155 millirem per day radiation during repairs of a nuclear power plant, violating the company's limit of 100 millirems (1 mSv) per day.<22>

* September 23, 1983 — INES Level 4 - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Accidental criticality

* An operator error during a fuel plate reconfiguration in an experimental test reactor led to an excursion of 3×1017 fissions at the RA-2 facility. The operator absorbed 2000 rad (20 Gy) of gamma and 1700 rad (17 Gy) of neutron radiation which killed him two days later. Another 17 people outside of the reactor room absorbed doses ranging from 35 rad (0.35 Gy) to less than 1 rad (0.01 Gy).<23> pg103<24>

* April 26, 1986 — INES Level 7 - Prypiat, Ukraine (then USSR) - Power excursion, explosion, complete meltdown

* A mishandled reactor safety test led to an uncontrolled power excursion, causing a severe steam explosion, meltdown and release of radioactive material at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant located approximately 100 kilometers north-northwest of Kiev. Approximately fifty fatalities (mostly cleanup personnel) resulted from the accident and the immediate aftermath. An additional nine fatal cases of thyroid cancer in children in the Chernobyl area have been attributed to the accident. The explosion and combustion of the graphite reactor core spread radioactive material over much of Europe. 100,000 people were evacuated from the areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl in addition to 300,000 from the areas of heavy fallout in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. An "Exclusion Zone" was created surrounding the site encompassing approximately 1,000 mi² (3,000 km²) and deemed off-limits for human habitation for an indefinite period. Several studies by governments, UN agencies and environmental groups have estimated the consequences and eventual number of casualties. Their findings are subject to controversy.

See also: Chernobyl disaster

* May 4, 1986 – INES Level needed - Hamm-Uentrop, Germany (then West Germany) - Fuel damaged

* A spherical fuel pebble became lodged in the pipe used to deliver fuel elements to the reactor at an experimental 300-megawatt THTR-300 HTGR. Attempts by an operator to dislodge the fuel pebble damaged its cladding, releasing radiation detectable up to two kilometers from the reactor.<25>

* November 24, 1989 — INES Level needed - Greifswald, Germany (then East Germany) - Fuel damaged

* Operators disabled three of six cooling pumps to test emergency shutoffs. Instead of the expected automatic shutdown a fourth pump failed causing excessive heating which damaged ten fuel rods. The accident was attributed to sticky relay contacts and generally poor construction in the Soviet-built reactor.<26>

1990s

* April 6, 1993 — INES Level 4 - Tomsk, Russia - Explosion

* A pressure buildup led to an explosive mechanical failure in a 34 cubic meter stainless steel reaction vessel buried in a concrete bunker under building 201 of the radiochemical works at the Tomsk-7 Siberian Chemical Enterprise plutonium reprocessing facility. The vessel contained a mixture of concentrated nitric acid, uranium (8757 kg), plutonium (449 g) along with a mixture of radioactive and organic waste from a prior extraction cycle. The explosion dislodged the concrete lid of the bunker and blew a large hole in the roof of the building, releasing approximately 6 GBq of Pu 239 and 30 TBq of various other radionuclides into the environment. The contamination plume extended 28 km NE of building 201, 20 km beyond the facility property. The small village of Georgievka (pop. 200) was at the end of the fallout plume, but no fatalities, illnesses or injuries were reported. The accident exposed 160 on-site workers and almost two thousand cleanup workers to total doses of up to 50 mSv (the threshold limit for radiation workers is 100 mSv per 5 years).<27><28><29>

* June, 1999 — INES Level 2<30> - Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan - Control rod malfunction

* Operators attempting to insert one control rod during an inspection neglected procedure and instead withdrew three causing a 15 minute uncontrolled sustained reaction at the number 1 reactor of Shika Nuclear Power Plant. The Hokuriku Electric Company who owned the reactor did not report this incident and falsified records, covering it up until March, 2007.<31>

* September 30, 1999 — INES Level 4 - Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan - Accidental criticality

* Workers put uranyl nitrate solution containing about 16.6 kg of uranium, which exceeded the critical mass, into a precipitation tank at a uranium reprocessing facility in Tokai-mura northeast of Tokyo, Japan. The tank was not designed to dissolve this type of solution and was not configured to prevent eventual criticality. Three workers were exposed to (neutron) radiation doses in excess of allowable limits. Two of these workers died. 116 other workers received lesser doses of 1 mSv or greater though not in excess of the allowable limit.<32><33><34><35>

See also: Tokaimura nuclear accident and 5 yen coin

2000s

* April 10, 2003 — INES Level 3 - Paks, Hungary - Fuel damaged

* Partially spent fuel rods undergoing cleaning in a tank of heavy water ruptured and spilled fuel pellets at Paks Nuclear Power Plant. It is suspected that inadequate cooling of the rods during the cleaning process combined with a sudden influx of cold water thermally shocked fuel rods causing them to split. Boric acid was added to the tank to prevent the loose fuel pellets from achieving criticality. Ammonia and hydrazine were also added to absorb iodine-131.

* April 19, 2005 — INES Level 3 - Sellafield, England, United Kingdom - Nuclear material leak

* 20 metric tons of uranium and 160 kilograms of plutonium dissolved in 83,000 litres of nitric acid leaked over several months from a cracked pipe into a stainless steel sump chamber at the Thorp nuclear fuel reprocessing plant. The partially processed spent fuel was drained into holding tanks outside the plant.<36><37>

* November 2005 — INES Level needed - Braidwood, Illinois, United States - Nuclear material leak

* Tritium contamination of groundwater was discovered at Exelon's Braidwood station. Groundwater off site remains within safe drinking standards though the NRC is requiring the plant to correct any problems related to the release.<38>

* March 6, 2006 — INES Level 2<39> - Erwin, Tennessee, United States - Nuclear material leak

* Thirty-five litres of a highly enriched uranium solution leaked during transfer into a lab at Nuclear Fuel Services Erwin Plant. The incident caused a seven-month shutdown. A required public hearing on the licensing of the plant was not held due to the absence of public notification.<40><41><42><43>

2010s

* March 11-12, 2011 - INES Level 4 or higher, Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, Japan - Explosion

* After the 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami of March 11th, the emergency power supply of the Fukushima nuclear power plant failed. This was followed by deliberate releases of radioactive gas from reactors 1 and 2 to relieve pressure. On March 12, triggered by falling water levels, a hydrogen explosion occurred at the plant, resulting in the collapse of the concrete outer structure.<44><45><46> Although the reactor containment itself was confirmed to be intact,<47> the hourly radiation from the plant reached 1,015 microsievert (0.1015 rem) - an amount equivalent to that allowable for ordinary people in one year."<48><49> Residents of the Fukushima area were advised to stay inside, close doors and windows, turn off air conditioning, and to cover their mouths with masks, towels or handkerchiefs as well as not to drink tap water.<50> By the evening of March 12, the exclusion zone had been extended to 20 kilometres (12 mi) around the plant<51> and more than 300,000 people had been evacuated from homes in northern Japan.<46>

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:08 PM
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7. it won't until we have more tragedies
and then it's too late.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:24 PM
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15. Until they invent 'Nuke-Away!' I'm against it
I'll just keep repeating that... for still more decades to come I bet.
We're stuck on stupid, like lemings.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:44 PM
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19. +10000000000000
Thanks for the first chuckle I've had in 36 hours. And you're so right.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:05 PM
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26. I think I heard Robin Williams' character - Mork
from Mork & Mindy say that. It was many years ago, in another country that seems far far away from today's.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:51 PM
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24. I wonder if anyone is ever going to tell us what really happened here? nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 02:53 PM
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25. They won't have a choice if it is a CYA move with the reactor.
It would be impossible to hide the radiation being leaked out. The truth is other countries would be reporting a huge jump in radiation over their territory by now.
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