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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 03:53 PM
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Missouri Legislature wants to overturn Child Labor laws now.
"Jane Cunningham, a Rethuglican (of course), has sponsored a bill in the Missouri congress that will disillusion you a little further today. Behold, SB 222!
This act modifies the child labor laws. It eliminates the prohibition on employment of children under age fourteen. Restrictions on the number of hours and restrictions on when a child may work during the day are also removed. It also repeals the requirement that a child ages fourteen or fifteen obtain a work certificate or work permit in order to be employed. Children under sixteen will also be allowed to work in any capacity in a motel, resort or hotel where sleeping accommodations are furnished. It also removes the authority of the director of the Division of Labor Standards to inspect employers who employ children and to require them to keep certain records for children they employ. It also repeals the presumption that the presence of a child in a workplace is evidence of employment."

That is about it, except for some good comments below the blog article.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/somebody_tell_themdickens_lond.php
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 03:56 PM
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1. Yes, yes! Repeal the regulations! If people don't like child labor, they'll stay at a different
resort! Why can't you just leave the market alone?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:24 PM
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9. I wish her only torment all the days of her life.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:02 PM
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2. Okay,now I KNOW I'm losing my mind. Please tell me that
this bill is a joke.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:03 PM
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3. This horseshit will never stand up to a federal challenge
Every state has laws specifically dealing with child labor issues. When federal and state standards are different, the rules that provide the most protection to youth workers will apply. Employers must comply with both federal law and applicable state laws.

Federal child labor rules are established by the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) FLSA rules affect full- and part-time workers in the private sector and in the federal, state, and local governments. The rules vary depending on the age of the youth worker and his or her occupation.

The FLSA "covers" or applies to all employees of certain enterprises. All employees of an enterprise, as defined by the FLSA, are covered regardless of the duties they perform. An important factor in determining coverage is interstate commerce, the generation of income over state lines by various means. If an employer engages in interstate commerce of any kind, its employees are covered by the FLSA and child labor laws in its state. If an employee is not an employee of one of these enterprises, he or she may still be covered if the employee’s own duties meet certain interstate commerce requirements. In addition, if a business generates income of $500,000 per year, it is subject to federal labor laws.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/youthlabor/Statelaborlaws.htm

In these fiscally trying times, do the citizens of Missouri really want their tax dollars going toward defending illegal acts on the part of the state? If they had good sense, they'd be looking into the special interests that have Rep. Cunningham securely in their vest pocket.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:48 PM
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12. The way DC is going, I wonder how long the Feds will continue protective laws.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:05 PM
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4. Do these fuckers want us to become a third world country???
I'm seriously losing my mind right now. :argh:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:36 PM
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11. yes, I think they do
after all, importing goods made from cheap labor isn't as efficient as having that kind of cheap labor available here at home ...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:09 AM
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27. Even most third world countries outlaw child labor...
This is back to the 19th century...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:05 PM
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5. Proud to be the fifth rec...disgusted that this thread NEEDED to be written
And that bitter old hag probably goes to church every Sunday.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:07 PM
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6. When they won't be able to afford charter schools - then they can go to work
It's like they're preparing for the dismal future when we return to the horrible old days.

Here's how I feel about them --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzyjVUGtC0
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:10 PM
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7. Evil hag thinks child labor made this country great






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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 06:32 PM
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17. aha! so that is why the right is against abortion!
they need to keep the companies supplied with workers!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:12 PM
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8. coming soon "The Branson Renaissance"
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 04:13 PM by mitchtv
No one will go anyway
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:29 PM
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10. My father got in a public screaming match with a teabagger over this
The teabaggers argument was that in these difficult economic times it would be advantageous for parents to pull their kids out of school so they can work to help support the family and perhaps be home schooled instead or not at all since it was nobodies business but the parents!

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:50 PM
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13. Shades of Dickens, indeed.
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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 08:49 PM
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18. WOW!
Just wow. What can you say to stuff like that.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:13 PM
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21. Given my father grew up amongst the Bugsy Siegel entourage
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 10:16 PM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
I'm sure he communicated his point quite forcefully,

The point he tried to argue before he fucking lost it was that wouldn't that policy just breed a generation of guaranteed career welfare recipients? Given the long-term employment prospects of ignorant illiterates are quite limited.

The "(slur) ballsucker" as my father refers to teabaggers didn't find that very persuasive unfortunately,
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:19 PM
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31. My grandmothers quit school in fifth and eighth grades...
This was in the 20s. This is what they want to go back to. Also, an uneducated populace is easier to control. They have a hard on for third world countries where most of the populace can't even read.
Duckie
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:01 PM
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14. well, that`s one way to lower the standard of living.
have family men and women compete with their children for a job.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:26 PM
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15. They also have 4 versions of RTW legislation moving thru
the State Senate & House.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:47 PM
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16. Cunningham in influential in the American Legislative Exchange Council, the organization I've been
posting about.

This is her Missouri Senate page:

http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/Members/D07/bio.htm

Senator Cunningham was Chairwoman of the Education Task Force and served on the Board of Directors of the American Legislative Exchange Council, the largest voluntary organization of legislators and business leaders in the country.


And this is my general topic about ALEC, so you know what's going on. They're pushing horrific bills all over the country. They've been around for decades, but this is their worst legislative blitz yet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230

With ALEC, you're dealing with a very sophisticated lobbying group pretending to be a charity, for tax purposes. The legislation is mostly written by corporations for their legislative shills who take it back to their own states, and their individual members include thousands of conservative state legislators.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:06 AM
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25. They are very organized.
We need to practice that skill a whole lot more.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:03 PM
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19. Hard to wrap my thoughts around this, other than WTF! Thought it was a
joke at first. Best comment on that blog was by hillaryrettig:
"The MO (Republican) Senate also just eviscerated Prop B, which voters approved resoundingly. It would have forced puppy millers to meet minimal standards of providing food and water (!), medical care and shelter. We used to joke about the Repubs hating kids and puppies but I guess it wasn't a joke. Whenever you think they've hit bottom they manage to find another floor."

still, WTF!!!


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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:25 PM
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20. It's good that they're not even pretending anymore.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:16 PM
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22. Cunningham isn't the only member of the Missouri Legislature
Granted most of them are clueless morons and perhaps some of them do support this, but until there's evidence of this shouldn't the OP title read "Missouri legislator" and not "Missouri Legislature"?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:07 AM
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26. Good point.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:41 PM
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23. From Thom Hartmanns blog-
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:16 AM
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28. The person commenting on that blog is minimizing an d distorting the proposed law.
Hatmann's blog contains a comment from someone saying that
"Senator Cunningham is not repealing the child labor laws.
What Senator Cunningham is dealing with is an archaic law that
currently does not allow children to even have a lemonade stand, cut grass,
babysit, walk the neighbors dog, participate in a stage production such as
at the Muny, etc."

Oh yeah????

Look what Cunningham's bill covers:
"Children under sixteen will also be allowed to work in any capacity in a motel, resort or hotel where sleeping accommodations are furnished.
It also removes the authority of the director of the Division of Labor Standards to inspect employers who employ children and to require them to keep certain records for children they employ."

To compare that to "allowing children to have lemonade stands" is ridiculous.

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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:18 AM
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29. Absolutely horrible.
These Tea-publicans are truly fascists and neanderthals.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:04 PM
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30. well of course- it's from Cunninghams office!
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 11:06 PM
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24. Wow... just speechless. n/t
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:12 PM
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32. Why don't these fuckers just move to Bangladesh...
instead of trying to turn us into a country like that. Their utopia of wealth inequality awaits them there.
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