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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:07 PM
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Fellow progressives.....I need help debunking a FB friend of a friend....
He's posted that crap FAUX smear about Kevin Jennings being a founder of NAMBLA and after I called him on it he replied with this:

"maybe you need to look up your facts...look up the 2001 GLSEN Conference where Kevin Jennings and his GLSEN organization handed out “fisting kits” to the children and teachers who attended the GLSEN conference...and get you some more sugar for your Kool-Aid..."

After a very long week.....I just don't have the energy right now to bitch slap him into the next century and whould appreciate some quick response to throw at him.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:10 PM
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1. start here
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:15 PM
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2. Done that already....
I find myself really wanting to just ........I can't say it.......it's just too violent. I loathe people like this guy.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:15 PM
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3. I know it' s not a help in debunking,
but I belong to the FB group"Republicans are idiots and it's a waste of time arguing with them". I immediately block right wingers even if just friends of friends. Life's too short to have their ignorance and lies appear on my FB page, and I leave it to others to beat their heads against the wall trying to reason with those that can't be reasoned with. But I admire you (not being sarcastic; I really do) for wanting to respond to him.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:24 PM
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4. OK....I responded.......with more tact than I wanted....
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 04:25 PM by BooScout
Here's my response.....

"It just ain't so Greg. It's an out and out lie and you know it. Check your facts: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005140068

""GLSEN trainers" did not provide "tips on teen fisting." This is a reference to a recorded exchange that occurred during a "Queer Sex and Sexuality" workshop during a 2000 conference sponsored by the Boston branch of GLSEN. In fact, Jennings reportedly criticized some of the workshop's content when the recordings were first released in 2000, and the people involved in conducting the controversial discussion were state employees and contractors, not GLSEN employees."

Gina, I am sorry for hi-jacking your very commendable link.....I just feel it's necessary to debunk smears like this when I see them.

Greg, I gave up kool-aid long ago when I grew up and got informed."
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:26 PM
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5. well done. No "F" word. good job
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:32 PM
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6. But don't you know?
Media Matters is run by the evil George Soros who's trying to destroy America just like he's destroyed countless countries around the world in order to bring in the NWO.

They have "Answers" for everything.

Keep tryin though, every now and then one of them has a Eureka moment
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:32 PM
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7. Nice.
I try not to let them know how pissed off they make me and instead make an attempt to connect and inform. At the very least I am taking the high road and who knows, maybe they'll think about what I've posted or written...
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:59 PM
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8. ARRRRRRRRRRGH!
I'm done with him....I so wanted to use the F word about a hundred times but I restrained myself.....Our last exchange:

Him: "Jennings gave a speech at the 2000 conference on fisting where 14 year old boys were present and when he got called on it he apologized and then did the same thing at the 2001 conference and was even taken to court for it...the conferences became known as "Fistgate 1 and 2"..."

Me: "
No he didn't. He actually criticized the 2000 conference in the Boston Globe (look it up). And he didn't speak about it or conduct the seminar. Again an outright lie that has been debunked by numerous news organizations. (lagain....look it ...up)

It's pretty obvious you have a problem with gay people Greg. I myself have problems with people who spread lies, distortion and hate."

Him: "haha...Media Matters is the looniest of the left wingnuts information outlets...I would even believe MSNBC before that George Soros disinformation group...

haha...I have gay friends that say Jennings is disgusting and doesn't represent the main stream gay community...it must be a real bummer for you being wrong 99% of the time...good luck..."

Me: " Numerous news organizations have debunked Fox's smear campaign agains Jennings Greg, including CNN, MSNBC, the Boston Globe, the New York Times, etc.

I doubt seriously you have any gay friends and if you do I suggest you show them this exchange and ask for their responses....I think they will look at you in a new light.... As someone whose brother died of AIDS and has seen so much hatred and myths, I feel the need to speak out when I see campaigns such as this and blatent and cruel untruths.

I'm done. Some people will never wake up and smell the coffee."
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