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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:31 PM Original message |
Capitalism finally destroyed Democracy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. kr |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Can we kill Capitalism now? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. I'm completely for it at this point. |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
74. We'd Do Good |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
132. Well said |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
106. Yes please |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
115. Yes. Si se puede. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
156. You need and FDR not a Nixon. nm |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. What should we try? Russia and China discovered socialism with its central control of production |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Russia and China were socialist? wtf? n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Obviously you aren't prepared to debate the economics of production and government. nt |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. No, Leftstreet is correct. You are confusing Communism with Socialism. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. ROFLMAO Have a blissful day. n/t |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That's a peculiar response. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. We are all very familiar with |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
152. Some people come here to disagree.... n/t |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
60. That's a peculiar response. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
68. That's the sound of somebody |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. I love when people use China and Russia as exaples of failed socialism. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You do know that Europe supports capitalism to control production, don't you? If not then you need |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. A very regulated form of capitalism. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Please identify European countries in which govt decides what products to produce & their price. nt |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Socialism can exist in a demand market economy....... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. OK but can you answer #31? nt |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Youre trying to confuse the issues. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
127. Marx used the terms interchangeably |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. Sorry to break it to you but Groucho and Karl were not related. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Funny you mention Kapital, since he didn't mention communism or socialism in it |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. I wouldn't describe Das Kaptial as funny, more like tedious. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
171. Please study a little about Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel who spawned Left and Right Hegelianism |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
79. The Commons |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. Businesses are using 80% of our water -- MIC using 80% of our oil -- |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
124. Yes, bro. Those are the ones that, AT A MINIMUM, ...... |
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bongbong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Tax policies |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
51. +1 |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
159. Agree, but what they tried wasnt even Marxist communism. And today China is |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #159 |
177. Indeed. Me, I'd prefer a Socialist Democracy. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Apparently not. Not if China and Russia are socialist n/t |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
114. Russia and China ARE socialist states |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #114 |
144. no. they are state capitalist societies. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #114 |
160. they are socialist like Hitler's Germany was socialist. Only in the leader's minds. nm |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
154. wtf??? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Northern Europe is a better example. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Europe allowed capitalism to control production and then taxed the yield from capitalism to give to |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. So you're asking - what would a system look like without profit? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. If there's no profit, how do you intend to fund social services and goods that are shared by many |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Would you settle for 'profit' not held in private hands? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. See #14. The issue is first make a pie, i.e. profit, then determine who gets a slice of that pie. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. In my studies decades ago, economist used Greek pi to denote profits, e.g. Greek pi = revenue – cost |
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W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. You don't need profit to pay for those services... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Interesting idea, why don't you run for president on that platform? n/t |
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W_HAMILTON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. I'm too young :) n/t |
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havbrush (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
122. Capitalism v socialism |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #122 |
172. Please parse #14 and tell me specifically where you and I disagree. n/t |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. USSR-communist, Russia is socialist |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. OP challenged capitalism, just one way of controlling production. When compared to socialism, one |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. You have to watch your terms. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Now Igel, why bring facts into the discussion! n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. I am with you |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
103. China is mostly now authoritarian oligarchic capitalism,with a veneer of Communist party ideology |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
161. They call themselves communists but Karl Marx would disagree. They are capitalists. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
162. actually russia rejected communism |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. The usual sophistry. As though they're the only alternative, or no new system can ever exist. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
173. So what new economic system do you propose in lieu of capitalism and socialism? n/t |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. islamist third-positionism is the hot new thing |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #173 |
184. Socialism with democracy would be a start. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
95. The options are not limited to our current oligarchy and Stalin's Soviet Union. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #95 |
179. indeed |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #179 |
187. True |
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economic_liberal (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
126. Chomsky explained fake socialist scam like USSR |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #126 |
155. chomsky is an ultra-left philistine though |
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economic_liberal (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
134. Einstein wanted socialism |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
158. Karl Marx is rolling over. Neither Russia nor China practice socialism. China is the greatest |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. k&r |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Exactly |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Humanity vs. Profit. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Capitalism and democracy are not compatible. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
107. What if the sun rotated around the earth? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. Our reality could easily be switched away from capitalism and towards a more humane and fair |
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drokhole (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Don't forget teachers and their budget-breaking pensions... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. I really didn't think they'd go this far. |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Yes |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. So sad. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. +1 |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
133. Sadly, it wasn't just the GOP. Clinton played his part and now Obama is as well. n/t |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. The USA has a mixed economy that is way out of balance and has no choice |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. Greed finally destroyed capitalism. |
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Shandris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. This, right here. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
59. That is simply the BEST post I've ever seen on capitalism's limitation. |
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Shandris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
135. Erm...by all means. :-) |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
66. Capitalism could work just fine, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
116. No -- Capitalism is suicidal and and evil -- you can't regulate evil .... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #116 |
129. I don't know. I like having stuff |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
76. Yes. Well said. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
105. capitalism, and the monetary system that fuels it, are based on never-ending,always expanding growth |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
118. Capitalism has "failed" repeated historically -- it's an evil and can't be regulated .... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
145. that's the standard Marxist theory. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Greed IS capitalism............ |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
67. Profit is greed. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Do you have a savings account? |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
136. How about a choice?......... |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Capitalism = Greed |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Capitalism |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. And it always will |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. No. It hasn't... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. Capitalism + Democracy = Oxymoron |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
45. Well, here's the story by Rahm, himself, on why business s/be grateful to Obama -- !! |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
137. I was listening to Thom Hartman and he said he expected another financial meltdown and expected |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Missed Thom Hartmann today -- always interesting ... thanks!! |
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Zanzoobar (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
47. Democracy is never destroyed |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
50. If it hasn't been destroyed |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
52. and they couldn't do it without 1000 coordinated radio stations getting |
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southshore (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
53. Stockholders are the problem |
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Roy Rolling (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
56. the alternative? |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
58. I'm out of breath. |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
87. Yep |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
61. Not so much destroyed as exposed. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
78. No Half Measures |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. The people aren't stupid and they know. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yes, most people aren't stupid, as many DUers like to claim, but they HAVE been hoodwinked. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Not to worry, they do our work for us. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Whatever floats your boat. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
62. And Marx is proven right once again |
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dthigpen4 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
80. Marx was right...sort of |
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dthigpen4 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
69. Really, capitalism is the only problem? |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Regulated Capitalism |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Let me make my usual pitch for democratic capitalism |
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dthigpen4 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. We already had regulated capitalism |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Huh? n/t |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Impossible. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Why don't you read the information before you... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Because it's the same old reformist bullshit. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Oh, bullshit... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Why don't you explain this 'complex cause'? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
168. Do you understand the concept of... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
111. I could be wrong so forgive me if I am |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
169. No, it's not... |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
71. No punishment for heinous crimes perpetrated by one administration and |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. Bush |
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starzdust (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
100. Boy, Do I Have PIISD! |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
72. 100th rec |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
73. K & R |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
75. No punishment for crimes against humanity |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
90. Good one |
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JokerAllstar (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
77. We don't have textbook capitalism anymore...that's an illusion |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
81. Socialism is more compatible with Democracy |
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dthigpen4 (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #81 |
94. Not, really, only in idealistic fantasyland |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
128. Even the USSR made use of the price signal towards the end there |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
138. Who says socialism needs centralized power? |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
82. How has democracy been "destroyed"? |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The facade of democracy remains |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #85 |
101. It might be possible if we'd all stop saying it isn't possible. |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #82 |
91. Is almost destroyed? |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
102. No, the 2012 elections haven't been cancelled, |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. "Bought," more likely |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
104. K&R n/t |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
113. Again. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
120. Now you know why I hate Capitalism |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
121. This pretty much sums it up. Big kick and rec |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
123. It May Not Be Easy To... |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
146. You can try to fix a system which is flawed at a systemic level all you want |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
125. Does this mean the wealthy have to get callouses on their hands? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
130. That's not capitalism. That's feudalism. That's what happens when capitalism disappears. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Sure, capitalism needs strong government.... |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
131. K&R |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
139. that all you got? . . . psha-a-a-a-w-w-w . . . |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
147. "It was the Beast who killed Beauty" |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
149. it makes sense |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
150. I think it's called Neo-Feudalism. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. Serfing, USA.....nt |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. LOVE IT!!! |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. feudalism has a little style |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
157. Capitalism isn't the problem.. It's capitalists I'm bothered with. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #157 |
164. I hear this a lot, along with "socialism" being....... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. "Capitalism's goal: Make as much money as possible" |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. Whether that is the goal of capitalism or not is irrelevant |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #170 |
180. Of COURSE that's the goal of capitalism............ |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #180 |
182. I don't think Friedman spoke... |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #164 |
178. If I'm answering according to your description.... |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Ask any capitalist what the goal of capitalism IS........ |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Only if you only talk to some capitalists.... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 01:29 AM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Okay I'm open minded. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Here's a good starting point... |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #183 |
188. Well obviously you're not in control of the captalist........ |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Government makes economic policy... |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #164 |
191. Capitalism doesn't have any goals. People have goals. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. for your information |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
166. No regulation of Capitalism finally destroyed Democracy! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
167. Corporate capitalism, taken to the hilt, is a Ponzi scheme. |
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FreeJoe (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-14-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
175. Markets with safety nets |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-11 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
189. Wish I could rec, but I'm too late. |
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