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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:40 PM
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Contamination: I'll keep hearing 'Fuck You Shima'
every time the Fukushima incident is discussed, as it will be, for the rest of my life.

Shiitake.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:41 PM
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1. Say after me: "Foo-Koo-She-Ma". nt
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:46 PM
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2. Yeah. I know I've got it wrong. I read it a while before I heard it spoken,
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 08:46 PM by denem
and the early pronunciations were not that good.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:47 PM
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3. We need better Japanese speakers in the news.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:01 PM
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7. Seems to me Japanese is VERY easy to pronounce. It is 100% regular.
For example, I cannot understand how English speakers turned "karaoke" into "carry okee"

It is "Ka-ra-o-kay"
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:06 PM
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8. Wagateruyo (I know)
Americanization of words sometimes sucks.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:15 PM
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9. wakkate iru yo.
Interesting that you made the k/g error.

It is commonly seen in Korean, along with the lack of differentiation of b/p. Are you Korean or did you learn your Japanese from a Korean?

Just interesting to me, no offense. ;)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:36 PM
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10. Neither
It's from what I hear. It sounds so similar.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:13 AM
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12. It's hard to distinguish between the k and g sometimes in Japanese
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:43 AM
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13. Voice vs no voice
See 'Phonemic distinctions or allophones' here if you aren't familiar with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonology
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:58 AM
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14. That goes way over my head
>.<
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 06:03 AM
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16. It just says
Looking at the way we physically produce sound for language tells us that each sound we make has a set of characteristics that define it. For example you make the /t/ sound by putting your tongue behind your front teeth and briefly blocking the flow of air. The first half of the sound produced when you read the single letter /t/ does not require you to use your vocal cords. The second half of the sound is a vowel since reading the letter /t/ is like saying the word /tea/.

In linguistics the first part is considered a distinct unit. Its characteristics would include a "plosive" which describes the release of air after blocking it with your tongue behind your teeth. If you do that without using your vocal cords it is a /t/. If you shape your mouth and throat in exactly the same way and make exactly the same forces work BUT also use your vocal cords, you will produce a /d/.

In Japanese this specific characteristic is explicitly built into the writing system. When you write n hiragana or katakana and you use the colon to change a /ha/ to a /ba/ you are adding voice - that is what the chon chon means - add voice.

Introduction to linguistics was one of the most enjoyable courses I've ever taken. Hope the lecture didn't bore you.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 03:07 PM
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18. Thing is, if you say wakateiruyo quickly
Doesn't it sound "wa-GA-teruyo?"
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:55 PM
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4. Yep, and it's ....
Toe - yo - ta, not Toy-o-ta. And nu-klee-er, not nu-cue-lar.

But what can you expect? Remember the old joke?

What do you call someone who speaks three or more languages? Answer: Multi-lingual.

What do you call someone who speaks two languages? Answer: Bi-lingual.

What do you call someone who speaks only one language?



wait for it....






Answer: American
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:57 PM
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5. I speak American and English
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 08:58 PM by denem
and am fluent in Gibberish.

:evilgrin:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:59 PM
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6. We like both kinds of music - Country and Western from The Blues Brothers n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:39 PM
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11. Maybe the OP is Scottish.
:shrug:
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 05:22 AM
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15. Skittish.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 05:23 AM by denem
Hero Shima...

Kept hearing THAT far too long in school.

Enola Gay Heroes?
Yea Right,
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 06:09 AM
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17. Well, it does help me remember how to spell it.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 06:10 AM by Jamastiene
Of course, now that I can remember how to spell it, I wish I knew how to pronounce it. I haven't watched much video/audio news. So, I'm still not sure how to pronounce it yet. :shrug:
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