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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 08:54 PM
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Conundrum... How Would YOU Solve This Problem?

You have an idea you've been developing for years.

You've researched it exhaustively and read all the laws, so you know that, if executed properly, it will succeed. You've done informal market research, and the response to your idea is 100% positive across the board. You know that within a very short time and with careful strategic planning, this idea will;

- Revolutionize at least one entire wicked industry.
- Remove nearly all lobbying power from that industry and put it in the hands of those with real solutions.
- Create real prosperity and better financial security for the vast majority of the working class.
- Ultimately lead to putting politicians responsive to the people, and not corporations, in office.

Here's the problem; You need investors with vision who want as much as you do to change the paradigm and bring wealth and power back to the people. You need to be taken seriously by only those people, because if this particular industry gets wind of the idea and takes it seriously, they will go to lengths to preserve the status quo.

You cannot give in to the urge to just lay it all out there for anyone to do it, not merely because you want to personally profit from it, but because if it is not executed properly, quietly and in timely fashion, lobbyists for the industry will mobilize and have seemingly pointless laws created that would stop the model dead.

You need the attention of people like Michael Moore and others who can grasp this idea, but do not know exactly how to go about it without putting this idea in jeopardy.

What would you do?

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:01 PM
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1. I faced that condundrum.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 09:13 PM by RandomThoughts
I concluded that light would prevail, so figured best to power through even if seen. Side note the powering through is showing the ideas that are part of so many people, the ideas themselves are part of many people.

Got a little help, but what I found is the context of having to be hidden is to remove your ability to get your idea going.

If your idea is a good idea, because people are more good then bad, it will work when seen. And if someone tries to take it, there is a scene from a movie that explains that. And it is not just the idea, but the ability to maintain it, so the person that thinks of it is also needed.

Or to be more clear, if a person has a choice between the person that comes up with an idea, and someone that took it and claimed it as theirs, they will choose the originator of the idea.



It was explained in this movie.
Working Girl.
http://movieclips.com/eMkL-working-girl-movie-tess-proves-the-merger-was-her-idea/


Side note, I don't claim to be originator of ideas, but they are great to watch.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:02 PM
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2. Sending mass quantities of luck vibes, keep us posted, k?
;)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:02 PM
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3. You need one other person who you trust who can help.
Any more than that and the secret will get out.

Good luck!

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Boswell Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:07 PM
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4. first place i would look is at past contestants and winners
od "X" prizes. used to thinking outside boxes and open to new ideas. they could at least give you a name or two to approach
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:13 PM
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5. Depends on how much startup money you need, I suppose.
Do you have a "cell" of trustworthy collaborators? I would first brainstorm with them and develop a list of potential "angels." Then I would engage the group in doing background work on the "angels." Get an idea of how much each is worth, look at their history of political contributions, see what you can find out about their interests, passions, charitable activities, etc. Build a dossier on each. You would then probably need someone who can serve as an entree to the potential investors. Start playing Kevin Bacon. Identify and build access channels. The people in the channel don't need details; they need only to be able to vouch for you and for each other down the line. Be ready with a good, quick sales presentation you can deliver when you get in the door. Recognize that there will always be some risks of exposure, but do everything you can to minimize them, of course. Trust nothing to open communication links (e.g. email). Find someone who understands net security to help you lock everything down. Send me a healthy consulting fee when you hit the bonanza.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:21 PM
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6. Not much... only about 10-20 million.
I did, in fact, find a very interesting network of people who would be invaluable to the whole process... extremely valuable. Unfortunately, they are working on increasing their own resource base and the one real contact I have, although he gets it, is already tied up with other projects. I could pry some of his people if I had wind that some investors were available.

Problem is, most 'Angels', especially in the network around here, are only interested in small start-ups. Venture capitalists shell out more, but rarely ever help start-ups. In both cases, the right ideals are few and far between.

I have the presentation down already. It's barely 10 minutes and all I need is a white board, a red marker, and a room full of the 'right' people.

The dossier thing is an absolute must, and I'd even consider issuing an MMPI2 before inviting anyone to a presentation. There will only be ONE presentation if it ever happens. One is all I need.

I'll keep in touch about that fee.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 09:29 PM
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7. as with any entrepreneurial venture, you need to choose your partners carefully.
sometimes VERY carefully.

there are people who are plugged into the venture capital world who know what the missions and agenda of the various players are, and they may be able to help. but of course, those, too, are partners you must choose with care.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 10:13 PM
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8. I don't dream of making millions anymore.
I just slap a creative commons or gnu license on my ideas and let them fly.

http://creativecommons.org

http://www.gnu.org/licenses

If you've got a great idea you may not get rich from it but one of these licenses will liberate your idea for all who might benefit from it while frustrating the wicked.

Lobbyists and lawyers can't hold out against the tide of a good idea that can be freely distributed and utilized by anyone. Look at Linux -- there's no stopping it now.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:30 PM
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9. As much, very much, as I appreciate your direction...
Relegating what I have to such a thing would mean its demise. It would be made useless almost overnight. The critters of avarice would see to it.

Thanks though. Should I have something that works thusly, I'll use your links which I gladly bookmarked. ;)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:42 PM
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10. If it's that fragile, maybe it's worth nothing
If it relies on secrecy to work, and working it makes it known, or even talking about it means its demise, I'd say, as a poker player you either have seven high or maybe you think twenty one is a good poker hand.

How could anyone invest in it without losing their hide? Only the people who heard the first pitch would have any chance with it. There wouldn't even be a second pitch, according to your own reckoning, as the idea would be rendered moot by then.

As a Devil's advocate, I'd say it sounds valueless. Good luck with it, though. I'd like to see it work, if it can.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:53 PM
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13. Been well over all of that. Ad-fucking-nauseum.

No, the weakness isn't in the model. It's not like a hand of cards where the best hand always wins. No, it's being at a table where your opponents are allowed to pull cards out of your hand if they suspect it's strong and you have no way of stopping them.

It's quaint to think that we live in a world of consistent rules and level playing fields, but unfortunately that is not the current reality. Less poker, more anime, and you might get a handle on where I'm coming from. The powerful always destroy anything that might threaten them. Why? Not because they are strong, but because they know they are weak.

Strong ideas are dangerous to the established powers. That makes those ideas vulnerable, not 'weak'.

Do not confuse 'vulnerable' with 'weak'. There really is a world of difference.

Thanks though.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:44 PM
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11. Order some good food, some good wine, and wonder why my idea remains so vague. -eom-
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 11:49 PM
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12. I would direct all my effort on one critical person
Perhaps, as you suggest, Michael Moore.

All it takes is to get one person with means fired up.

Good luck, I can't wait to hear about it after you've succeeded! :thumbsup:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:16 AM
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14. Yeah, if it's that sensitive, one man at a time would be prudent
And MM seems like a good guy to pitch. How about Jesse Ventura too?
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