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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:44 AM
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I'm sick to death of the ME! ME! ME! demands from the right wing
Everything is about them and what they think they deserve. Check out this lame LTTE I just found:

E-tax but no services

Even though I paid the Kansas City earnings tax for 20 years, I cannot vote in the April 5 election to repeal the tax because I live in Gladstone.

The best I can do is encourage people who live in Kansas City to vote against the tax. If you think you are getting your money’s worth out of the tax, consider what happened to me.

I was in an automobile accident on Grand Boulevard near the Sprint Center. I called the police to report it and asked the dispatcher to send an officer to the scene.

She refused. I was told the police do not investigate automobile accidents unless someone is injured or one of the vehicles is not drivable.

Even though the driver of the other car was clearly at fault, her insurance company denied my claim, in part because I did not obtain a report at the scene by the Police Department. I could not get an officer to drive the half mile from Police Headquarters to investigate my accident and write a report.

All other cities in the area provide basic services without imposing an earnings tax. Kansas City does not. Vote to repeal.

David L. Boman

Gladstone



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/12/2723418/letters-monday-march-14.html#ixzz1GYLiyfEK


Kansas City is the largest city in the state with a crime rate to match its size. Yet this bozo expects the cops to drop what they are doing and come file a police report for his car accident - which couldn't have been serious cause you know he would have whined about his injuries if he had sustained any.

It's also common practice in every city in the area to ask drivers to come to the police station to file a report when they have a minor accident. I know I have done so myself a few times. But then I'm not a wingnut who expects the world to be at my service when I ask. I believe in personal responsibility - while it's just a cute catch phrase to the right wing whiners.
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pulledpork Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:49 AM
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1. Shit
I am sick to death of EVERYTHING from the right wing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:01 AM
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6. Yes I could go there as well
LOL
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:51 AM
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2. Expect to hear lots more cryin' and moaning by these folks as they get the taxcuts
they think they deserve. They'll find out soon enough that the few bucks they saved will be far outweighed by the lack of services we need. I suspect we'll be seeing this played over and over until these idiots finally figure it out.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:56 AM
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3. This whiner is complaining about a 1% earnings tax
How lame is that? If he earns $50k a year, his Etax is $500. He probably spends more than that on Cheetos every year.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:11 AM
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4. Did you see the other person's insurance company demanded a report "at the scene"?
This is an insurance company relying on the lack of police service to pay out on policies. Since when are we in favor of insurance companies screwing the little guy?

This is crazy.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 02:20 AM
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5. He's lying.
Insurance companies require a police report but it doesn't have to be taken "at the scene". Every time we have snow or ice here, the local media reminds us that the police are busy and if we are involved in a non-injury accident, we should drive to the police station to file the report.

He was probably too lazy to drive himself to the police station. Then the insurance company refused to fix his car so he decided to blame the police.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:11 AM
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7. I'm more sick to death of the lying...
...than I am of the incessant whining. And, they always seem to find a way to combine the two.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:45 AM
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8. You do know
that Funks main defense of the BS earnings tax is that KC police and FD have to take care of out of towners so out of towners should also pay for them through the E-Tax. I am willing to bet that this guys letter is in response to one of the many of Funks interviews where he has stated that all must pay if they expect the police to show up.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:16 AM
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10. My main defense of the ETax is the city will die without it
If these whining wingnuts think city services are bad NOW, what do they expect when there's no ETax? It's 40% of the city's budget. With a declining property tax base in an aging city, where do these whiners expect the city to get the revenue they need to provide services?

I also think it's lame to complain about a 1% tax. We all have to pay taxes if we want to live in a civilized society. This guy needs to man up and take on his civic responsibility.

I do agree though that I wish I could vote on the ETax. I'd proudly vote for it. It's such a small amount I don't even miss it in my paycheck.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:48 AM
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13. KC won't die without it
KC will have to learn how to budget smartly though if they lose it. First of all, it should not be 40% of the budget and the fact that it is just shows how irresponsible the city is. Secondly, the property tax base is declining because of the terrible choices the city makes, not because the city isn't stealing enough money.
People, and not just wingnuts, are sick and tired of pumping money into a city that cannot manage itself. People like this guy aren't saying they don't want to pay taxes, they are saying they don't want to pay this tax because the city does not provide the services it should be with such a tax. Throwing our money down the drain is not our civic responsibility.

It must be nice to not have to worry about money being taken out of a paycheck, I wouldn't know because even the smallest amount affects my budget. That is why I campaign against this rip off tax and would proudly vote against it if I could.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:02 AM
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14. I believe it was Oliver Wendall Holmes who said
"Taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society"

I believe that and live by it. And no, I don't mind paying taxes to a city where I don't live but spend the majority of my waking hours. For over 3 decades. I drive on the roads, use the trash services and benefit from the protection of the police and fire depts. I will never complain about paying my fair share. I don't view it as throwing money down the drain. I also pay taxes in two states. But I don't whine about it. I can always choose to work elsewhere. I also expect the workers who come to my city for their jobs to pay their fair share.

I spend more on coffee every year than what I pay for the e-tax.

Did you know that teachers and other seasonal workers and part time workers who don't drive into the city every day all year had to pay the FULL e-tax for many years? They finally started making adjustments but none of us got a refund. And no, I did not complain.

Yes the city has some cleaning up to do. So do most of the municipalities in Johnson County. So does Lees Summit and Gladstone and Riverside and every other city in the area. But taking away 40% of a city's revenue isn't going to do a damn thing to clean anything up. If you think services suck now, wait till the e-tax goes away.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:02 AM
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17. I agree about taxes
but there are smart taxes, and dumb taxes. Fair taxes and unfair taxes. The gentleman in the OP has been paying the ETax for many years but when it came time for him to benefit from his investment, he was told to f-off. Why should he want to keep paying for police services if he can not get them when he needs them?
Disagreeing with one tax does not mean one disagrees with all taxes.

The city has MAJOR cleaning up to do. Places like the P&L are failing because of nothing more than bad city choices and because of that, services will suck no matter if the e-tax goes away or is doubled.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:27 AM
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20. That gentleman who wrote the letter was asking for personal service
Police don't do that. Every time the weather is bad, we are reminded to go to the police station to file reports on car accidents. I personally had to do this in a suburb the last time I got hit. There were no cops available to come take my report. So I walked it in. Not a problem. It's called taking personal responsibility.

I can't even imagine how high our taxes would be if we expected the cops to respond to every single fender bender. That's ridiculous.

My problem with P&L is the TIF financing they received to build it and then they placed ridiculous demands - and discriminatory dress codes - on the city and the patrons. I don't have any idea how it is doing because I won't go there. That district represents a HUGE loss in property tax revenue to the children and the schools in the city. It's also likely we wouldn't be worrying about losing the e-tax if those businesses paid their fair share in taxes. Same with H&R Block. The largest tax preparation firm in the country can afford to pay taxes. But when they moved their headquarters downtown, they got a sweet TIF deal. If you live in KCMO, you pay more in property taxes than H&R Block or the P&L. Those are the tax problems we should be complaining about - not the e-tax.

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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 08:59 AM
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9. Me Me Me - that's the biggest difference I've seen between Democrats and Republicans
I've heard several right wingers accusing Democrats of simply wanting the government to take from the haves to give to those who refuse to work (the have-nots). I've come to realize that the REAL difference is that, by and large, most Democrats don't mind our resources (tax dollars) being used to help out people who need help, whereas most Republicans are simply stingy and selfish.

I'll add that I personally know a low-life welfare cheat (ex daughter-in-law) who manipulates the system so she can avoid working. Even knowing that there are a few bad apples who abuse the system I'm still very much in favor of my tax dollars going to help people who need help. The right wingers I know point to this one example as to why we shouldn't help people who need it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 AM
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11. Yep. Check this out:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:20 AM
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12. But that's the foundation of their entire ideology
The whole conservative ideology is "me me me." It's "you're on your own." It's "survival of the fittest." It's "every man for himself." It's pure primitive selfishnes... and it is VERY appealing because selfishness is a powerful human trait. That's how the right wing gets people to vote for them... appealing to their selfish nature. Most often in the form of "lower taxes" but in other ways as well.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:04 AM
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15. I've been calling them MEpublicans for years now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:28 AM
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16. I like that!
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:11 AM
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18. What makes you say he's right wing?
In 1996, I hit an oily patch and rear-ended a young couple. They wanted to call the cops and I explained that they wouldn't do anything, besides, it was obviously my fault. I offered to sign a statement saying it was my fault. Well, they paid taxes and deserved police service, so they called. A cop showed up and told them the same thing that I had, then left. I ended up listening to them bitch about shitty police service and paying taxes while I made out the statement I had offered earlier.

I bent my license plate and dented their bumper right where their Clinton/Gore sticker was.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:30 AM
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21. Because he's complaining about paying taxes
It's a big issue here locally. Everyone who lives in KCMO or works in the city pays a 1% earnings tax. In April, the voters will decide if it should be repealed or stay in place. There is a Koch like billionaire in MO who is funding the effort to repeal the e-tax.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:06 PM
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24. We have the same thing over here in St. Louis
It's not a left/right issue to those of us that pay it. I'm in favor of it because I know what will happen to this city without it. I know plenty of liberals and moderates who bitch about it, right along with the righties. You're right, it's selfish, but the right doesn't have a monopoly on selfishness.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:12 AM
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19. That's why the Republican opera closed after one night.
It never got past "Me, me me me me, me me me me!" :P
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:58 AM
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22. LOL!!!!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:00 PM
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23. The San Diego PD generally won't respond to vehicle accidents unless there is an injury, or...
...a traffic situation resulting from the incident.

Police reports for minor accidents just don't happen here.
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