Obama published editorial in Arizona about guns

[HereSince1628]

No editorial in WI regarding protection of UN recognized Human Right to Collective Bargaining.

Everyone is endangered by bad guys with guns. But attacks in 15 states on workers rights are...

...well, ya know it's only 15 states, and ya know, we're more afraid of guns than the domestic threat of fascism!


Well, considering how long it's been since Gabriel Giffords was shot, maybe we're just impatient.

[JuniperLea]

1. got a link?

this OP is nothing without the link.

[HereSince1628]

2. Comments on MSNBC...but

it really happened...
http://azstarnet.com/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html

[Buzz Clik]

3. Did Obama make any public comments about Wisconsin?

It's a rhetorical question, but most hysterical DUers are so poorly informed, that I'll answer the question: Yes, he did. He came out strongly in support of the unions.

Give it a rest. This isn't Obama's fault. You'd like to blame someone other than the voters of Wisconsin, but the blame is squarely in their laps.

[former9thward]

4. He did not come out strongly in support of anything.

He said "from what he is hearing" "it seems like" an assault on unions. You call that strong? He said in that same statement that not "all" of budget problems could be blamed on unions.

[Buzz Clik]

10. Sigh. Your lack of being informed is not his fault, either.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/17/AR2011021705494.html

Read. Learn. Remember.

:eyes:

[JuniperLea]

12. +1

I'm really getting tired of the hate overriding everything else.

[former9thward]

15. Sign. Where did you think I got that quote?

[joeybee12]

18. Good lord, did you read this POS article...the only quote from Obama is the "seems"

quote...they pretty much made up this article to make it sound more threatening and controversial...nice try...but try reading past the headline.

[Buzz Clik]

21. Did you read all four pages of that "POS" article?

I get the feeling that you are one of those who reads only the portions that support your negative outlook.

This was not Obama's fight, but he thrust his support into it. Obama did not vote in a GOP governor and Republican state legislature, nor can he reverse that election. He cannot send in the National Guard or make threats or do one goddam thing to change the course of events in Wisconsin. The voters set all that in motion, and they are reaping their rewards.

So stop. Just stop. You are sounding like a shrill, uninformed teabagger. Ignorance of the political realities is no excuse for making stupid comments.

[HereSince1628]

6. He certainly didn't publish any editorials.

meh.

[Buzz Clik]

7. No books, either. So?

[HereSince1628]

9. Sew? Sew buttons on yer underwear and velco will still work better.

[demwing]

8. It isn't his fault, but he sure hasn't helped

in fact, when it was possible to help, help was denied.

[slackmaster]

5. His commentary concerns federal gun control, which is a federal issue

HTH

[HereSince1628]

11. And a coordinated multi-state attack on civil rights isn't.

I got that. That comes down to parsing exactly WHAT is a national concern for the effective head of a national party.

Rationalize and apologize, we've all got the right to do it.

[slackmaster]

14. Please show where anything in federal law guarantees collective bargaining rights to state employees

TIA

[HereSince1628]

16. The US is a co-signatory of the UN Human Rights accords

Collective bargaining is therein, a recognized HUMAN RIGHT.

And even if you are one of those southern Reagan Democrat types you should be aware that RONALD REAGAN HIMSELF SAID THAT DEMOCRACY CANNOT EXIST WHERE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING IS BANNED!

[slackmaster]

19. I meant something that actually carries the force of law within the USA

But thanks for playing.

United States Constitution

Article VI

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

[HereSince1628]

20. Treaties of the United States ARE LAW.

Go FISH!

[slackmaster]

23. An international accord isn't a treaty until it's ratified by a 2/3 vote in the United States Senate

The Constitution, HereSince1628.

Have you read it?

[slackmaster]

22. When did the US Senate ratify the UN Human Rights Accords?

;-)

[Upton]

13. "I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms."

:thumbsup:

[HereSince1628]

17. We DO NOT NEED TO THREATEN ANYONE.