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fatbuckel Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:30 AM
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No shocker: O'Keefe's NPR video is a lie
Source: NPR via DailyKos

The ACORN video was a fake. The Shirley Sherrod video was a fake. So why should anyone be surprised to find that the NPR video is also a fake? James O'Keefe has absolutely no interest in the truth. Instead, his well-funded hit machine has only one purpose: to distort and manufacture controversy.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/14/134528545/npr-okeefe-inappropriately-edited-video-execs-words-still-egregious
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:31 AM
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1. I'm sure glad NPR didn't fire the guy over this. Oh, wait... n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:40 AM
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3. +1
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:03 PM
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10. Sure glad WH did not pressure anyone to make Sherrod resign immediately, either. Oh, wait...
"WH wants your resignation right now. Pull your car over and resign."

Since the person who said that to Sherrod never got fired or even publicly reprimanded, I believe her, not WH denials of WH involvement in her firing. Also, call from NAACP went to WH, not Sherrod's dept. Never even gave her five minutes to defend herself.

What happened to our supposedly shared values of procedural due process (notice and opportunity to be heard) and presumption of innocence, at least when government is involved? NPR, at least, is a private employer.

And Obama, aka community activist + lawyer + constitutional law prof + taker of an oath to defend and protect , who had worked hand in hand with ACORN to register record numbers of voters in poor neighborhoods in Illinois, signed an unconstitutional law that obviously would--and quickly did--end ACORN.

Sigh.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:19 PM
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12. They didn't. He had already given notice before the tape
and resigned early afterward.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:06 PM
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25. Had the head of NPR given notice also?
She left too.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:45 PM
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29. True, but different question /nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:38 AM
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2. Someone makes a prank call exposing Walker's real self and Rethugs seek to
outlaw prank calls, implying prank callers are, or at least should be, criminals. O'Keefe lies and defrauds and trespasses, and media dub him a "political activist."

He's an unscrupulous, lawbreaking, two-bit dumbass twerp, not a "political activist."

Say it with me now: He's an unscrupulous, lawbreaking, two-bit dumbass twerp, not a "political activist."
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:41 AM
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4. He's an unscrupulous, lawbreaking, two-bit asshole traitor, not a "political activist." ...
ooops I got it wrong and right at the same time.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:37 PM
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18. I think
you're TOO GENEROUS with your words.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:45 AM
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5. It's even worse than that
O'Keefe was allowed to WALK after being caught while obtaining access to a US Sentor's office in disuise with the intent to place listening devices on the Sentor's phone. Just imagine how differently the situation would have been handled if he would have been a Muslim-American or a Democrat.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:36 PM
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17. Which suggests probably some powerful people behind him ... and $$$ --
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:51 PM
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22. + 1,000
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:21 AM
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40. No escaping that conclusion. nt
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:16 AM
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45. Exactly - I'd love to know who is
funding his escapades - SauRove's 527 perhaps? The crap o'keefe pulls is a saurove wet dream.
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:47 AM
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7. O'Keefe is an unscrupulous, lawbreaking, two-bit dumbass twerp, not a "political activist."
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 11:49 AM by groundloop
It's pretty damned telling that even Glenn Beck's website (The Blaze - theblaze.com) said the edited version of the encounter was misleading.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:39 PM
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28. He is not two-bit...He successfully brought down his targets
he is not a dumbass...the people who fell for the latest video after seeing 2 prior lies are the dumb asses.

He is an effective Political Operative. Who happens to use blatant lies effectively. Someone is willing to finance him knowing he will produce pure heavily-edited fiction.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:26 AM
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36. the people behind him dont care if he gets caught, they said the damage will be done and we can
still use it forever and people will still believe it..

the Nazi Brothers get a lot of mileage out of their relatively small investments for propaganda

read
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300184639&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Jeff-SharletsC-Street-Fundamentalist-Democracy/dp/B004RGIROO/ref=sr_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300184639&sr=1-12

the Dominionist Nazis have taken over the government thru the evangelical movement
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:13 AM
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47. When is Anonymous going after him???
That would be fund to watch.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:53 AM
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58. AMEN AND HALLEJULAH!!!
I want to see the tables turned on this filthy little cockroach as soon as possible.

The light of day is needed to expose him and his other hitmen ilk (Drudge, Breitbart, et al.) for what they are - crazy ideologues.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:45 AM
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6. More youthful pranks?
Isn't that the third strike?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:56 AM
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8. The shocker is that Glenn Beck's site said O'Keefe's editing was unfair
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 11:57 AM by muriel_volestrangler
The "conservative news site The Blaze" whose editor said that the NPR executives "seem to be fairly balanced people" is Glenn Beck's site.

But even if you are of the opinion, as I am, that undercover reporting is acceptable and ethical in very defined situations, it is another thing to approve of editing tactics that seem designed to intentionally lie or mislead about the material being presented.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics/


When Glenn Beck's people think you've gone too far ... :crazy:
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bongbong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:59 AM
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9. Adolf Beck
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 12:00 PM by bongbong
Beck is a populist right wing conspiracy theory hack. Once in a million moments like an insane clock (think of the opening of Twilight Zone), it's right.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:04 AM
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44. I think Beck is trying to save his own relevance by throwing O'Queefe under the bus. And O'Queefe

really is an easy target, as he's just a pawn doing Britefart's dirty work.
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bongbong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:17 AM
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53. Probably
You're probably right. I'm just amazed that anybody other than a prison warden listens to anything O'Queefe (good name) does.

But - AS ALWAYS - IOKIYAR.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:17 PM
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11. When you look in the dictionary under "pissant"
O'Keefe of no chin pops right up.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:22 PM
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13. Will somebody please pull an O'Keefe on O'keefe
If anyone deserves to be trashed in an unflattering hit piece it's this guy....
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 01:54 AM
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32. He's immune because he's right-wing.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 01:55 AM by Capitalocracy
I mean, seriously, what do you want to do to the guy, use a hidden camera and get him to say that his plan is to smear people he conceives as liberal using misleading and edited videos? He says this every day through his actions, and everyone knows it. And he'll continue to get away with it, because the media is on his side. They're collaborating with him. They're just waiting for the next video to come out. There's nothing they love more on the MSM than letting smears and lies go by as fact when they come out, making a big deal out of them, creating consequences, and then in the end making a 5-second correction. Oh, turns out it was a fake. But Acorn is destroyed. But Sherrod's still fired. But Van Jones is still fired. Now here's Tom with the weather.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:48 AM
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57. Fight film with film . . .
Follow him around and film him changing into his pimp clothes or muslim gear, telling moronic jokes about how their going to punk the media, etc. Put edited video up on YouTube that makes him and his entourage look more putzy than they are.

Set up a fake sting. He needs to be ACORNed. Make a prank phone call using his backers' names. He needs to be Walkered.

Where is this cockroach based anyway?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:37 PM
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62. Go look in the Political Videos forum
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:31 PM
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14. And will Diane Sawyer/ABC, Katie Couric/CBS, Brian Williams/NBC, Steve Inskeep/NPR (!)...
...cover this?

Will they have the BALLS to expose this lie for what it is?

...I won't hold my breath that THEY will tell the truth.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:35 PM
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16. But, given what you know ....
why are you still watching those people?
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humanityisfree Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:45 AM
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60. NPR has been heavily covering this
They have spent a good deal of time nationally and even at my local level discussing the developments and findings of the longer version of the video...but...
Even O'Keeffe knew that posting the unedited version that led to "Blaze's" cracker-jack investigative journalism would only serve to make NPR look more pathetic and desperate in their claims that O'Keeffe manipulated and distorted what Schiller was saying...
Once the horse is out of the gate its too late - the repubs and tea-party and other conservatives know and use this to their advantage at every turn - and the liberals and progressives are too principled to use that tactic so its not even in their arsenal...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:33 PM
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15. Question is: "Why isn't O'Keefe in jail" -- ???
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:49 PM
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19. Because he is a "conservative"
A liberal kid guesses Palin's email password and he goes to prison.
A "conservative" kid fraudulently enters a Congresswoman's office and attempts to tamper with her phone lines and he does 10 hours of community service.

Duh...Losing
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:51 PM
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21. Obviously, strong GOP backing and money keeping him in play --
and imagine many more liberal/Dem targets lined up --

Knocking out ACORN was an unbelievable victory for the right wing --

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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 01:56 AM
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33. What's the bounty on a liberal head these days? nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:50 PM
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20. yet our media jumped on it like it was manna from heaven
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:51 PM
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23. kick for everyone who knew this story was coming a week or two
after the 'manufactured controversy' machine moved on to something else...
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 12:59 PM
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24. O'Keefe is hatchet technician nt
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BeeBee Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:11 PM
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26. Why do they even report what this guy (O'Keefe) says?
He has absolutely no credibility.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 01:29 PM
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27. Why isn't this
O'Queef character in jail? Wasn't Shirley Sherrod going to sue him and Breitbart into oblivion for libel? Any word on that?
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 07:42 PM
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30. Tea baggers are still racists, O'Keefe still a fraud
Where are all the people that believed the video and slandered NPR? So many Americans have knee-jerk responses to propaganda, they have been trained like robots to become outraged in an instance.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:02 AM
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31. No Shocker-NPR is not covering the privitization of towns in Michigan.
No excuse for that asshat but I'm just SICK of this shit.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:58 AM
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34. I don't see what is wrong will calling teabagers racist? And NRP is a new organization they
should know how much O'Keefe distorts those tapes. Whoel thing is sad.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:13 AM
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35. Don't know who Tompkins is but props to him for giving a balanced view there.
Conservatives having a balanced view = fairly rare.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:33 AM
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37. Then why did 2 people resign?
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 05:34 AM by sendero
Sorry, unless it was a paste-up where every word was cut-pasted in, he got enough.

The idiot should have:

1) Never met with "donors" he knew nothing about

2) Not shot his mouth off.



A person in his position is not supposed to be a moron. Even though I had zero problems with what he said, it was the absolute truth. But the anti-PC police cannot handle the truth eit
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:51 AM
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41. You just don't go there
with anyone.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #37
54. Why did Shirely Sherrod get fired?
Because spineless people panicked.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:53 AM
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38. The little conservative puke, O'Keefe, has been discredited on
more than one occasion with regard to his over the top editing of films, so why is anyone giving him the time of day, let alone firing people for innocuous comments taken out of context?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:18 AM
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39. It doesn't matter.
O'Keefe's next video will be fake too. And it will be effective in tarnishing someone.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:53 AM
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42. When will this slime be sued?
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:59 AM
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43. YAWN
Anyone with half a brain knows that this bass turd would edit his video, and only show the parts that benefited his cause.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:11 AM
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46. Why isn't he ever sued???
No legal action is ever taken. Why????
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:27 AM
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48. Interview with O'Keefe using O'Keefe tactics...
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:30 AM
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49. And once again, the "liberal" media took the bait.
It's Charlie Brown and the football every time.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:39 AM
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50. Why do so many people keep falling for this little fucking mutant's bullshit? nt
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 08:40 AM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:43 AM
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51. Hey there - calling Peter KIng:
"Hi there Representative King. Are you going to hold hearings on the unamerican activities of James O'Keefe?" ..........c.r.i.c.k.e.t.s........what? Probably not you say? ......c.r.i.c.k.e.t.s... well then, goodbye sir...thank you for your time..........c.l.i.c.k...
"Asshole."
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:58 AM
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52. The cake...er, video, is a lie
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:26 AM
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55. I saw he was Foxnews power player of the week, talk about a perfect couple. n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:30 AM
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56.  "a lie" and "a fake" do not seem like true statements to me
the linked article includes this

"NPR spokeswoman Dana Davis Rehm told David late yesterday that O'Keefe "inappropriately edited the videos with an intent to discredit" NPR."

but also this

"Still, she added, Schiller made some "egregious statements.""


and this

"As Time magazine's James Poniewozik writes at his Tuned In blog, "the close-up look doesn't let the executive, Ron Schiller, off the hook."

with this

"But it shows O'Keefe edited the short version of his video to fit his anti-NPR agenda. Explaining why both things can be true at once requires, well, a lot of context.""



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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:26 AM
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59. "Still, she added, Schiller made some "egregious statements.""
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:26 AM by AlbertCat
And then sites the statement


As we said yesterday, those included Schiller calling the Tea Party a "weird evangelical" movement that has helped push the "current Republican Party" to become "fanatically involved in people's personal lives."


How is this egregious? It's certainly more true than any O'Keefe video.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:32 PM
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61. that doesn't seem that bad to me
but it doesn't seem true either.

NPR might be thinking that their people should not be making partisan statements while on the job.

They too have to take care not to offend Republican donors.
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