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Mon Mar-14-11 09:54 PM
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Up next on The ED Show -- Ed reminding people "Obama said he'd walk with the unions" -- When? |
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:55 PM
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1. Ed's saying Obama is missing a golden opportunity to reconnect with his base. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:56 PM
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2. Showing the "comfortable shoes" video now. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:56 PM
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3. Yeah, Ed! With Libya going to hell, Japan being almost literally destroyed, |
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teabaggers gleefully shredding the Constitution, and everything ELSE Obama has to deal with on a daily basis, clearly the foremost thing on his mind should be abandoning his job!
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:59 PM
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7. We were also promised he could walk and chew gum at the same time. |
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They have all kinds of modern communications gadgets and thingamajigs in Wisconsin these days.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:03 PM
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25. This is not walking and chewing gum. |
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This is walking, while chewing gum, while juggling fifteen chainsaws, while riding a unicycle, while your "friends" throw stilettos at you.
And I have no problem with the President being where he belongs to deal with that.
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:03 PM
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12. +1000 - This president has had to deal w so many freakouts - I'm sure WI folks get the deal |
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Plus the fact that going there just gives fuel to the right wing to ties Obama to "radicals" for 2012. They surely have the commercials ready just need the photo op.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:14 PM
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28. Of all the reasons for him not to do it, that's the least compelling. |
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If I felt that was the only thing that should keep him from going, I'd be pissed he wasn't there too. But there are other, more important reasons for him not to be there.
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:08 PM
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14. Offering support to unions during a nation-wide GOP assault on unions is "abandoning his job"? |
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 10:09 PM by highplainsdem
Maybe you've missed my posts about ALEC and what it's doing, and about what WI Senate Majority Leader Fitzgerald admitted about the goal of this union-busting.
But it is a coordinated GOP effort, with the goal to break the unions permanently and break the Democratic Party with them.
This isn't solely about Wisconsin. And what happens will determine the unions' ability to help the Democrats in 2012.
The Tea Party idiots already see the President as a villain in this -- look at the commercials being run. President Obama can't avoid that by staying away from Wisconsin.
And if he'll go to Wisconsin, or Michigan, or wherever the center of the fight is next, he'll not only energize the base, he'll take the media coverage with him.
Which will help him, and the unions, and the Democratic Party.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:13 PM
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27. You're not talking about him "offering support", which he has already done. |
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You're talking about him flying out to Wisconsin for however many days and walking among the protestors.
This is a terrible idea for two reasons:
1) Secret Service protection would completely disrupt and fracture the protests. Not to mention the entourage of like ten Secret Service guys Obama has around him at all time, there would be snipers on the roofs and metal detectors around the perimeter.
2) His presence would suck the air completely out of the room and instead of the spotlight being on Wisconsin's workers, where it BELONGS, it would be on him. He'd energize the right wing, scare off any anti-Walker protestors who may not be pro-Obama, and the media would dutifully report the story the way the Regressives told them--as "OBUMMER INTERFERES IN STATE MATTERS, HERO GOVERNOR STANDS UP TO HIM".
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:57 PM
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4. Bringing in Laura Flanders of Grit TV. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:58 PM
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6. She says the national Dems miscalculate terribly, missing this opportunity to shore up their base. |
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That this is what's needed to beat the outside money the GOP can bring in.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:10 PM
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26. I agree. And if they were on the side of the workers against unpopular Republican |
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ideologue Scott Walker, it would be easy to show themselves.
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Mon Mar-14-11 09:58 PM
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5. then it would been all about him |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:00 PM
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8. Ed says the firefighters he talked to in DC today said they want the President involved. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:04 PM
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13. Yes, because people in DC know what we want here in Wisconsin. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:00 PM
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9. I actually think it is better if he stays away.... |
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the corporate media and the rw nutjobs would make this all about him and take away from the people power that is building. We need to build in the states and local areas.
I also think we need to stop worry about DC dems and whether they will ever support us. We need to worry about our local groups.
OK, Laura Flanders is making sense. That the DNC and Obama are missing out.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:48 AM
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24. It's amazing how many things Obama can't do because of what the media or the rw might say. |
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It's like having an un-President.
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:00 PM
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10. Wisconsin is having a different kind of nuclear reaction..... |
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I am so grateful that Ed remembers.... Thank you....
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:01 PM
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11. Ed needs to stop bashing Obama. The Wisconsin Dem-14 said...... |
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that President Obama was supportive and that they were glad that Obama did NOT go to Wisconsin!
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:35 PM
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but the PROFESSIONAL LEFT needs to bash Obama over something....it's like a drug addict....they need their drugs everyday or they have withdrawl....
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:41 PM
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...they're just wrong, is all. What do they know? You'd think it was about them, or something....
The moment Obama shows up, you've got crowds of over 100,000 at the State House, mark my words.
Oh, wait.
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:16 PM
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29. Pretty sure they already got well over that the other day. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:08 PM
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15. Obama should say something just prior to April 5 to get out the vote, then |
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he should come to Wisconsin just before the election to recall the 8 senators.
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:26 PM
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16. I love Ed but he is not being smart on this one. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:27 PM
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17. He wore out his shoes walking with Jeb Bush last week. |
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:29 PM
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18. He is busy playing that 3 dimensional 12 level chess, he has |
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them just where he wants them and will spring his trap any time now.:rofl:
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Mon Mar-14-11 10:54 PM
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21. Yep. He used the video clip from my story |
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 10:54 PM by mmonk
at firedoglake. The national Democrats I think are missing an opportunity with the labor situation going on throughout the states right now. Their silence reminds me of the mainstream media's.
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:16 PM
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22. Obama could do more good like this: |
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The ILO (International Labor Organization), a UN agency, guarantees the right of collective bargaining for all workers. Collective bargaining is also required in the labor provisions of NAFTA.
Why can't Obama simply sign an executive order commanding the offending states to comply with the UN charter and NAFTA?
How the hell can we expect other nations to deal fairly with us if we can't even abide by the treaties we've signed?
Why should Obama or anyone else have to demonstrate in the streets for this?
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Tue Mar-15-11 12:36 AM
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23. Only if the time comes when it looks like he might need our votes |
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and then only maybe. I've given up on Obama.
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