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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:56 PM
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Live Geiger counter Tokyo....link Ustream
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:59 PM
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1. Interesting, but it could use some context.
Do you know what the number means?

Are we sure it's a reliable source?
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:03 PM
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6. 10-20CPM is apparently normal background radiation level...
...therefore, 22+ is exceeding normal levels.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:05 PM
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8. Thanks. How interesting someone would do this. Wonder if it's real
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:10 PM
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12. Here is another one, must be in a different location of Tokyo...
...although that is speculation on my part.

The levels are still within "normal":

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:07 PM
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10. Thanks very much! n/t
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:17 PM
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18. hmmm
Manhattan was around 97 in Oct 2001...
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:08 PM
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11. Number is in counts per minute. We don't know what it is calibrated to but
a good guess is Cs-137 or Co-60. The reason they are used for calibration is they tend to show up in nuclear attack which is likely when you need a civil defense geiger counter.

If Cs-137 is the calibration source: 120cpm is roughly 0.01mSv
If Co-60 is the calibration source: 1280cpm is roughly 0.01mSv.

If you want split the difference ~150cpm is roughly 0.01mSv.

To put it into perspective. Normal annual background radiation is 2.4mSv (per year).
A CT scan can be up to 50mSv. Chernobyl at the exposed core was 300,000mSv per hour.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:00 PM
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2. looks ok for now...... n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:01 PM
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3. It's climbed .02cpm in the last five minutes. nt
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:01 PM
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4. You'll have to explain "CPM" to me
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:02 PM
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5. Counts per minute
Number of times a radioactive particle/ray enters the chamber.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:11 PM
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13. An explanation.
CPM is counts per minute. It is tied to a calibration source. We don't know what it is calibrated to but a good guess is Cs-137 or Co-60. The reason they are used for calibration is they tend to show up in nuclear attack which is likely when you need a civil defense geiger counter.

If Cs-137 is the calibration source: 120cpm is roughly 0.01mSv
If Co-60 is the calibration source: 1280cpm is roughly 0.01mSv.

Since we don't know say ~150cpm = 0.01mSv. Thus 22cpm is 0.00147mSv.

To put it into perspective.
Normal annual background radiation is 2.4mSv (per year).
A CT scan can be up to 50mSv. Chernobyl at the exposed core was 300,000mSv per hour.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:04 PM
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7. 22.16 CPM at 9PM PST, for reference. nt
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:06 PM
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9. Just clicked from 22.19 to 22.20. nt
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:12 PM
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14. Now at 22.22.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:14 PM
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15. They detected cesium already, worry is that levels will also rise nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:15 PM
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16. They detected it in Tokyo?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:17 PM
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17. Yes. Link:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:20 PM
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20. slowly climbing then as now 22.25.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:18 PM
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19. 22.23
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:22 PM
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21. Offline.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 11:23 PM by wtmusic
Perhaps a phone call was made.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:23 PM
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22. Link just went down... nt
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 11:24 PM by nebenaube
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:26 PM
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23. How reassuring
What they don't know won't hurt them, right? :eyes:
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:29 PM
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24. It was a normal citizen's geiger counter...
He probably had better things to do...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:35 AM
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25. Breaking News: Rueters.....Tokyo detects "minute" amount of radiation
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/japan-quake-idUSTKB00735920110315

(Reuters) - "Minute levels" of radiation have been detected in the Japanese capital, Tokyo, Kyodo news agency said, quoting the metropolitan government.

They had found iodine and cesium but it was not immediately clear if it was linked to the damaged nuclear plant in the northeast.

It also said that radiation levels in Saitama, near Tokyo, were 40 times normal levels, quoting the local government.

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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 01:18 AM
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26. Link is dead now. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:51 AM
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27. worked for me just now on Tuesday morning. Reads 28.83
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:52 AM by KittyWampus
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:56 AM
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28. It's back up and running....10 cpm is normal backround ...it's now 28.69
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 08:11 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 01:27 PM
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29. 26.35cpm 7h25m /nt
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:33 PM
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30. 28.45 cpm @ 5h58m ( n/t )
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