A true "WTF"

[Stinky The Clown]

Pat Robertson endorses legalizing weed.

Joe Biden opposes it.

[pintobean]

1. Which would need it to enjoy life?

[lunatica]

2. Pat Robinson thinks the masses aren't docile enough with his opiate religion

Joe Biden? Who knows. Things come out of his mouth that always make you say WTF. That's one reason why I like him most of the time.

[Lint Head]

3. Pat "Hurricane" Robertson probable smokes it himself to take care

of aches and pains and other maladies brought on by age.

[Fumesucker]

4. Biden is actually one of the most strident drug warriors around..

The idea for a "drug czar" was his.. Long shall it live in infamy.

[sellitman]

5. I'm with Biden on this.

Except for use Medically.


I've seen all the arguments too.

[Statistical]

6. Yup because prohibition works so well. Helll almost nobody smokes weed illegally. n/t

[sellitman]

7. That doesn't make it right.

Like I've said...I've heard every argument known and it's how I feel.

[Statistical]

8. What does "RIGHT" have to do with anything?

We don't pass laws because something is "wrong" we pass laws because the present an uneccessary risk to others or infringe upon the rights of others.

Marijuana does neither.

Prohibition doesn't work.
Prohibition is insanely expensive. Billions that could be used to help the poor, improve schools, upgrade roads.
Other equally "wrong" products aren't prohibited (alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, motorcycles, etc).

[sellitman]

9. Just the added accidents on the road is a fine reason not too.

If you don't think stoned driver numbers wouldn't multiply exponentially then you are already smoking something.

[Statistical]

10. Kinda like drunk drivers. which is why alcohol is illegal right?

Generally we make the illegal actions illegal (driving while impaired) not the source of the illegal action (alcohol, marijuana, cellphones, not getting enough sleep).

Also I don't think you know what the term "exponentially" means. No rate of impaired driving won't increase exponentially.

[sellitman]

12. Adding to the carnage is a great idea.

Not

[Statistical]

15. You seem to think that it is free.

The drug war costs tens of billions a year.

When we have people going hungry, schools in disrepair, students dropping in global standing, bridges litterally falling down we dump tens of billions fighting a product which is still used. Even among highschool students use if very high.

Of course your mind in made up but maybe other people mind isn't.

Everything has a cost. Banning alcohol likely would reduce DUI rates also. So you are in favor of that right? Of course you are because otherwise would be hypocritical. Banning cellphones (not just in cars but banning them completely) would reduce fatalities too.

The question becomes at what cost. Both cost in terms of freedom and cost in terms of $$$$ we really can't afford to spend.

Where would the money do the most good. Say banning marijuana saves 10,000 lives a year (I doubt it but just as an example). Now if marijuana was legal the cost to enforce that prohibition could be used for example to expand Medicaid and possibly save 50,000 lives per year. Everything has a cost and banning marijuana has a very low (negative) return on investment.

[sellitman]

17. Having more die isn't a return on investment

Fail

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

22. Was the 21st Amendment a bad thing?

[sellitman]

23. Hard to compare the two

One had never been taken away before and was too ingrained into the fabric of the country. I would hardly put pot anywheres near that statement.

Thanks for trying though

[hootinholler]

19. Show me the numbers.

I would like to know the basis of your claim that stoned drivers would kill and maim in an exponential growth.

To me it smells similar to the notion that stoned negroes will rape white women which ushered in the pot prohibition.

-Hoot

[OnionPatch]

21. Hate to tell you but people who would drive stoned are already doing so.

The kind of people who are dutifully waiting for marijuana to be legal before they smoke it aren't likely to drive illegally under the influence.

[madinmaryland]

26. You have any proof of that allegation?

[tavalon]

16. When alcohol, the far more dangerous drug, becomes illegal again,

come back and we can talk. I'm on the other side of the spectrum. I haven't used an illegal drug since college and I think they should all be legalized. Yes, even heroin. But alcohol and regular cigarettes, those should be banned as being the most dangerous substances we have ever come across. Many if not most, untimely deaths are due to those two killers.

[panader0]

18. Do you drink?

What is your vice of choice?

[The Midway Rebel]

24. At least you admit it is personal. It is all about how you "feel".

Many folks that do not get high simply loathe folks that do. Thanks for being honest.

[Statistical]

11. The drug war isn't a perfectly partisan issue.

You have many Republicans, and virtually all so called libertarians that support legalization. On the other side many "big name" centrist Democrats oppose it.

It will be legalized in my lifetime. It is only a matter of time.

[Upton]

13. "It will be legalized in my lifetime"

I wouldn't count on it. A lot of folks back in the 60's and 70's thought it would be legalized in their lifetimes too. Now a lot of them are dead. There's just too much money involved in the drug war. Too many special interests. And too many fools buying the same old tired arguments for keeping it illegal.

[Statistical]

14. Younger demographics will be middle aged soon enough.

CA prop just barely failed. Support for legalization is higher among younger demographics and much much lower among older demographics.
In another decade the oldest Americans will be dead and the support number will only rise.

Now you are right there is a BIG $$$$$ in fighting the drug war but eventually support will be high enough that change will happen. It might be 5 years, it might be 10, hell it might be 30 but it will happen.

The Medical marijuana angle was very smart angle to peruse. It has shown people that this weed really isn't that dangerous.

BTW: I live in Virginia so for me it may be illegal a looooooooooooooooooooooooooot longer than say CA. Of course in my situation it doesn't really matter. Use of marijuana is a disqualifier for security clearance so I will just have to restrain myself.

[Vinca]

20. Kind of makes you want to knock your head against a brick wall.

:banghead:

[Stevenmarc]

25. Pat's whipping up a batch of his "special" Jesus Brownies