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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:44 PM
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U.S. Hispanic growth outstrips census estimates: study

U.S. Hispanic growth outstrips census estimates: study

– Tue Mar 15, 1:44 pm ET
PHOENIX (Reuters) – Growth of the U.S. Hispanic population is so fast and dynamic that it has outstripped estimates by the U.S. Census Bureau, according to a study released on Tuesday.

The report by the Pew Hispanic Center think-tank found that the Latino population in the 33 states so far tallied in the 2010 Census totaled 38.7 million, 1.5 percent higher than the U.S. Census Bureau's own previous estimates.

The gap between the Census 2010 count and the bureau's projections was widest in states in the Southeast and upper Midwest of the United States which had not previously had large Hispanic populations.

States with the greatest discrepancy included Kansas, Louisiana and Alabama, where the estimates and census tally were adrift by 10.8 percent, 13.2 percent and 15.9 percent respectively.

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/workers-evacuate-quake-crippled-nuclear-plant-4064603


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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:45 PM
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1. Good.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:50 PM
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2. Agreed. Most voting Hispanics vote Democrat, which means less Republicans winning elections.
Plus, this news annoys racists. Bwahahahahaha!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:00 AM
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6. Also strong supporters of universal health care -- and among Catholic
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:01 AM by defendandprotect
Hispanics strong support for reproductive care -- birth control --

and simply choice by 53% -- to be included in h/c --

In general, 83% for government run health care among Hispanic Catholics!

and large numbers for reproductive care --

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:16 AM
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41. I'm not sure you are correct about that. Thought it was the other way around.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:35 PM
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43. I based my reply on the following two links.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:54 PM
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Environmentally? No.
Politically? Maybe short-term, but who knows long term, and social issues are iffy too.

Economically? Yes, at least for a consumer economy in the short-term and also keeping the US population relatively younger in the long term.

Race relation-wise? Hard to say if the growth in population is driving faster integration or greater xenophobia, especially in the communities that are changing fast. Nativist sentiment, minority-on-minority violence, etc. etc. Then again, Hispanics tend to integrate into American society pretty quickly, like most immigrant groups, which is needed. But the bad economy ain't helping.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:57 PM
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5. What are Latinos radioactive or something? How are they worse for the environment than
my white neighbor thunking out another kid or three? Don't like the rhetoric.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:00 AM
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7. growth is bad for the environment
people tend to consume land, water and energy.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:06 AM
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10. Maybe we can get some "whites" to move out -- ???
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:15 AM by defendandprotect
:sarcasm:
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:13 AM
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14. Well, the KKK wants blacks to move out...
so you are in good company!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:14 AM
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16. Well we can be the anti-KKK ...
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:27 AM
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24. Nah, I think you should just join up...
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:32 AM by MellowDem
they like the idea of whites having their own place. Probably wouldn't mind whites all leaving to a designated homeland.

oh and :sarcasm: just in case

:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:51 AM
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34. Yeah -- I realized I had to go back and add the sarcasm, as well --
Entire concept of "white" is ridiculous --

there pretty much is no such thing!

You know, they finally had to do away with the term "mulatto" because people were

having trouble being "white" enough!


:evilgrin:
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:04 AM
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8. The increase in population...
doesn't matter if it's Hispanic or not, any population group that is growing and contributing to popuation growth has a very large environmental impact in the country that uses the most energy per capita (well, second most, since Canada actually uses the most per capita). The US doesn't need more population if it wants to be environmentally sustainable.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:14 AM
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15. The US birthrate last year set a record for the lowest one in the last hundred years.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:27 AM
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26. And?
It's still growing, unlike a lot of other developed nations.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:54 AM
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35. Thanks -- but was amazed to read about 2007 --
what was going on in 2007 -- no birth control available?

Wow!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:16 AM
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18. In order to be "environmentally sustainable" we'd have to decrease population by about 90% ...!!!
Get back to figures like 40 million or so --
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:24 AM
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23. So what, was the U.S. dangerously empty in 1870?
Some of our best years was when we were between 100 million and 200 million. Lets bring those numbers back down and not continue to half a billion by mid-century.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:27 AM
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25. I'd be all for a 90% decrease ... in fact 40 million native Americans here ....
when Columbus arrived -- on mainland and in other islands --

Think there are about a million of them left if you count those in Canada?

The destroyers cometh!



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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:30 AM
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28. The point is to avoid...
a catastrophe by stopping the unsustainable growth. It won't all happen at once. I don't claim to know a "sustainable" figure, but the rate of growth is not sustainable in the long term or even near short term.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:46 AM
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31. True -- but Global Warming is the immediate threat -- short term and long term ...
don't think there is much long term left --
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:05 AM
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9. Well, certainly the right wing will try to discourage any recognition of their humanity ....
and will do everything they can to create tensions between Hispanics and other

Americans --

Age old Bugaboo -- intermarriage --

We should take Warren Beatty's advice -- "Bulworth" and screw our way out of this mess!!


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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:10 AM
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13. Hispanics are a broad range already...
Quite a few are paler than "whites" in this country. The right tends to portray them as some caricature from a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon, but they are a very broad mix. In a country that doesn't have a big history of mixed races or a large population of them, this can only help normalize the idea of mixed race and perhaps downplay the importance of race over time, as has been done in many South American nations.

Hopefully integration of our segregated society will accelerate as well, but I'm sure there will be some steps back every now and again, especially with the economy and scapegoating by some.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:16 AM
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17. That's why it is called "la raza cosmica", the cosmic race,
because we tend to pick up and carry around DNA from all over the planet. I think it's a good solution.

lol
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:21 AM
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20. Now I'm even more impressed ...
from the stars?

:)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:13 AM
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40. That's pretty cool - I never heard that
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:20 AM
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19. Many "whites" are atttracted to people of color and vice versa ...
As I mentioned elsewhere -- think Warren Beatty/"Bulworth" had the right idea --

screw our way out of this!!

Right wing is very successful at creating fear of the "other" -- !!

Btw, there are two notable Reps in Congress -- the Sanchez sisters -- don't know

how their communities are feeling about them, but from what I see on C-span occassionally

they are impressive Dems!!



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:07 AM
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12. Latinos and youth vote with Democrats.
And Latinos are the youngest voting block in the country. That's not short term or iffy.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:24 AM
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22. 2/3 to 1/3...
the youth bulge won't last forever and political allegiances change over time among immigrant groups, especially ones that rapidly gain power and population. History has shown that. So while some may think it's a sure thing that Hispanics will always be Democrats, I don't think so. If 1/3 vote Republican, that shows that it's quite possible for change to happen and that Hispanics are a big part of the Republican vote as well. I mean, if 1/3 can vote for someone like Palin, it doesn't exactly make me think Hispanics are hardcore Democrats. And the youth vote is disillusioned with Democrats (understandably) so it's hard to say exactly what will happen IMHO.

I know quite a few on here seem to be gleeful at the idea of a growing Hispanic population simply "outgrowing" the Republican vote, but it seems a little too simple to me. Politics rarely works that way nor is that simple. A powerful Hispanic vote may not find their needs being met by Democrats or Republicans at some point. I mean, technically, that's not happening right now anyways, whatever race you happen to be. I can definitely see some changing political allegiences in the coming years, political parties rising and falling, and even the emergence of new parties that will look different from now, even if they have similar names.

One could also argue that large immigrant shifts tends to make the natives more conservative. Maybe if the US was more like Europe, that is, much more homogenous, they'd be much more liberal. After all, a very limited amount of immigration relative to US standards have gotten what are otherwise liberal nations turning very conservative very fast. Without large heterogeneous populations to divide and conquer, corporations may have a much harder time of it, as they do in Europe, with taking worker's rights. Just a theory.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:32 AM
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29. Except for the aging and shrinking community of anti-Castro Cubans,
Latinos vote with Democrats. The right wing keeps claiming that they are gaining our votes and every time they do, it turns out to be trash.

Of course, short of being Miss Clio, the future is unpredictable. But, as we are mostly working people and also as social justice is a cultural ethic, most Latinos identify more with the Democratic platform.

We will outgrow the Republican vote but the undecided immigration issue gives Republicans the excuse they need to suppress the Latino vote, as they do the black, student and military vote. Where immigration status is mixed within families, people will stay away from the polls rather than invite trouble to visit their home even if they themselves are legal voters.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:37 AM
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30. Well, as they become a larger voting bloc...
(and a larger share of the Republican Party as a result) they can only have a moderating influence as it stands now, unless the Republicans go full Tea Party, but even in that mode, they get what I would term "significant" Hispanic support, and I don't think it's all anti-Castro Cubans.

If the Republicans don't change their stance and become more accepting of minorities, they will die as a party. But a new, more moderate big tent rightist party will emerge in its place.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:10 AM
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39. The gusano community in Florida is really the only generative one
as far as producing Latino Republicans as a cultural practice. Of course, there are "pro-business" Latinos all over the country that have bought into the idea that you can screw your neighbor and be a good Christian and better than some darker person somewhere (the Republican platform). Any demographic has a minority of those people.

But there is no cultural center anywhere else that I know of where Latinos make it part of their identity to be conservative Republicans.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:54 PM
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4. Dupe.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 11:55 PM by MellowDem
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:28 AM
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42. It will be so nice having the Roman Catholic Church exert more political influence in our country
:hi:
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:53 PM
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3. My town, Sonoma, CA
With a population of 10,648, Sonoma is now 20.8% minority, up from 10.8% in 200. Sonoma added 1,231 minorities in the past decade, including 1.009 Latinos, 143 Asians, 17 Native Americans, and 17 African Americans.

I lifted these numbers from www.postdemocrat.com

Sonoman
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:23 AM
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21. How are you all getting along?
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:24 AM by defendandprotect



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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:29 AM
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27. Steinbeck was Sausalito, but we are cooler. Library
is a good catch.

We are re-habbing the library, but the search for short-term space is really aggravating.

Throw some energy this way, if you have some to spare...

Sonoman
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:49 AM
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32. Tried to edit it -- cause I did check -- Salinas ...
Right wing is after the libraries everywhere --

I'm in NJ -- but a big fan of libraries -- and love to check out libraries wherever

I go !!

:)
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:55 AM
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37. As a child, libraries were my sole refuge.
I will do whatever I can to assist the Sonoma Library cause.

Sonoman
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:54 AM
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36. Our stats: we are VERY diverse:)
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 12:56 AM by SoCalDem
http://www.city-data.com/zips/92553.html

Races in zip code 92553:
White population: 11,095
Black population: 12,176
American Indian population: 142
Asian population: 3,208
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander population: 257
Some other race population: 476
Two or more races population: 919
Hispanic or Latino population: 43,225
First ancestries reported:

Other groups: 40142
German: 2280
United States or American: 1659
Irish: 1643
English: 1557
Italian: 1106
Subsaharan African:: 747
African: 686
French (except Basque): 498
Polish: 399
European: 334
Swedish: 333
Scotch-Irish: 316
Dutch: 286
Scottish: 260
Norwegian: 253
West Indian (excluding Hispanic groups):: 146
Arab:: 141
French Canadian: 126
Canadian: 109
Armenian: 105
Portuguese: 102
Afghan: 100
Welsh: 98
Jamaican: 83
Danish: 79
Romanian: 77
British: 66
Iraqi: 51
Russian: 50
Finnish: 46
Czechoslovakian: 44
Belizean: 43
Lithuanian: 42
Slovene: 36
Egyptian: 34
Hungarian: 33
Lebanese: 32
Albanian: 28
Scandinavian: 28
Slovak: 26
Basque: 23
Ethiopian: 20
Icelander: 18
Acadian/Cajun: 18
Other Subsaharan African: 16
Swiss: 16
Maltese: 15
Jordanian: 13
German Russian: 12
Celtic: 12
Arab/Arabic: 11
Greek: 10
Bulgarian: 9
Cape Verdean: 9
Austrian: 9
Bermudan: 9
Nigerian: 8
Trinidadian and Tobagonian: 8
Somalian: 8
Turkish: 6
Barbadian: 3

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/zips/92553.html#ixzz1Gjtp6I3U
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:06 AM
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11. Boo hoo.
:nopity:
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:51 AM
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33. Keeping Digging Glenn
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:05 AM
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38. And we have to make damn sure they stay OURS. Do NOT get complacent about this
demographic group! My concern is that the bad guys might TRY, at least, to pull the Catholic Church strings on them to get them on conservative religious grounds - social issues like abortion and gay marriage.

We Dems MUST appreciate this demographic group and do everything we can to KEEP THEM through the years. DO NOT take them for granted. If we don't ever take them for granted, the future, and the country, will be OURS. They're the fastest-growing group of them all. They will be the majority sooner than later. We need them voting Democratic. It's the only way we can take back our country and rescue it from the CONS and their creative destruction. We have to remind them at all times that we're on their side and the other guys are SOOOOOOOOOO not.

DO NOT take these people for granted - EVER!!!!!!! They, too, like anyone else in any other demographic group, can be swayed by slick talk - just look at all the idiot "reagan Democrats" out there.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:21 PM
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44. +1000 calimary. They will be good for democrats in direct relation
to the degree that we recognize them as the latest valuable wave of "real Americans"....
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