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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:37 PM
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BBC: reactor dousing doesn't appear to be working...
The attempt to use helicopters to dump seawater on to the Fukushima power station is almost certainly unprecedented in more than half a century of nuclear power operations around the world.

And the long-range video images coming in indicate why it is not a method in general use: it does not appear to work.

The helicopters flew in some way above the reactor buildings, and went past without hovering - presumably because of fears of radiation.

Later, at a news conference given by the Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), a spokesman said they were not able to tell whether any of the water had been successfully delivered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12773350
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:39 PM
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1. A always thought that looked alot like pissing on a campfire...
..I hate to say it but I think that was more for the general public's benefit than anything else..
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:47 PM
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5. Since the people doing it are probably shaving years off their lives to do it...
...I view it more as an act of national desperation than theater.

One thing about this desperation is that one of the cooling pools for spent rods was almost entirely boiled off/evaporated, which precipitated this emergency attempt at getting more water in there, by any means necessary. In the light of this, the helicopter water drop is just used to get anything into those spent fuel pools.

PB
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:40 PM
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2. And the water cannons? nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:41 PM
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3. i don't know what to say...nt
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:45 PM
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4. so scary.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 01:24 PM
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6. Officials in Japan said it wouldn't work on the 15th
According to NHK television, officials at Tokyo Electric Power Co. decided a hole in the roof of the reactor was "dozens of meters" from the swimming-pool-like chamber where the spent fuel rods are overheating. So a helicopter dump, similar to putting out a forest fire, probably wouldn't reach the pool.

Moreover, officials say helicopters can't carry enough water to do the job. And Japanese Defense Ministry officials are worried about the safety of military personnel on the helicopters, according to Kyodo News.
http://www.ideastream.org/news/npr/134552475

I understand wanting to try anyway, though.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 01:28 PM
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7. It would need something like liquid nitrogen to get it cooled down. n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 01:34 PM
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8. Liquid nitrogen hitting that stuff and suddenly boiling off
That might be quite damaging, even if you could get that much of the stuff delivered to the necessary location.
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