Liberal AND Christian. Yes, it's possible.

[Lesleymo]

A friend of mine, who is also a Presbyterian minister, recently started a blog. Pastor Dave is a lot like Jim Wallis, who helped clarify my confusion over the clearly-un-Christ-like attitudes of many of my friends.

Thought some of you might appreciate this:

http://pastordavenpc.blogspot.com/2011/03/when-fidelity-chastity-war.html

[Denninmi]

1. Yes, of course its possible.

I used to work with a lady who was very liberal and a very devout Christian. She went to a semi-fundamentalist type Baptist church, and she took a lot of grief from many of the other church members. I think she viewed it as her duty to try to combat some of the attitudes, but there was more than one time when I saw her walking into work with tears in her eyes because of something someone at church had said or done.

[Adsos Letter]

2. As long as Church/State separation is respected.

[gkhouston]

8. Respected? The Christians I hang with *insist* on it. n/t

[Adsos Letter]

12. Mine too. They work actively for Church/State separation.

[name not needed]

21. Too bad the ones in power don't.

[bobbolink]

22. Is there anything anyone on DU can ever post that would convince you that there ARE liberal

Christians, or do you insist against any evidence to the contrary that they are all of the Pat Robertson variety?

Is there any part of your brain that is open to the difference?

[stjohndoe]

3. Here is my favorite liberal pastor's blog

http://www.shuckandjive.org/

He is local to me, and I've attended his church a few times. Truly a breath of fresh air.

[bobbolink]

7. Where is he located? The blog doesn't seem to give an indication.

Thanks...

[stjohndoe]

13. Northeast Tennessee, of all places.

This guy is called everything by "real" christians, but he doesn't back down from them. The Church website is: http://www.fpcelizabethton.org/

If you click on "Worship" and then on "Podcasts", you can listen to his sermons.

[bobbolink]

19. Cool! Thank you! There are Presbyterian beliefs I can't subscribe to, but they have a tradtion

of liberalism, besides which, I really appreciate those who stand up to the Pharisees. That's not easily done, but if he is doing that successfully, I wish he would give lessons for other clergy who are weak-kneed. I could nominate a few.... :rofl:

ps... if you ever want to read a light-hearted series about a Southern Presbyterian woman (of a certain age), which does expose some of the hypocrisy, you might enjoy the Miss Julia series. One of the books, Miss Julia Hits The Road, I thought was touching because it is about her black housekeeper whose whole neighborhood is in danger of being taken over and everyone evicted and becoming homeless because of a greedy owner. Miss Julia saves the day. ^_^ Light and fluffy, but has some grit to it.

[bobbolink]

4. TRUE liberals shouldn't even have to debate this. It is the very same as the RW

claiming that all Muslims are "terrorists".

Just sad.

Thank you for the blog link. I will take a look.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. My wife's sister is a Christian and a Liberal.

*

And so's 'er old man! :)

[Lesleymo]

14. You betcha!

Love you, Stinky.

[TheKentuckian]

6. Of course, I resemble that remark.

[WinkyDink]

9. "the clearly-un-Christ-like attitudes of many of my friends." Are your friends Republicans?

[Lesleymo]

15. You see ...

A lot of my friends would describe themselves as "Bible-believing Christians." In fact, I would have described myself that way a few years back. But that seems to have become some sort of code for "Right-wing Republicans." I don't see the correlation, and when I ask them to explain they just get mad. That's why I appreciate friends like Pastor Dave.

[forty6]

10. Actually, being religious is about as illogical as being a Republican, but...

I won't fight that battle now...I'll leave THAT for the atheists and agnostics to fight out ten years from now, when so many many more millions have seen the atheist videos on Youtube, and decided Christianity and Islam and Judaism and all the rest are highly over-rated.

That's ten years from now... right now, I want Republicans to stop their Republican war on public school teachers, etc. Personally I do NOT care which god myth they believe in... as long as they know fighting against teachers' and firemens' pension is not a winning strategy.

[slampoet]

11. "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, ....

they call me a communist."


–Dom Helder Camara, Brazilian archbishop



This is why Christianity is forced to the left, because how the rich treat the poor.

[w8liftinglady]

16. Sojourners is a good example of Liberal Christianity - Their current action alerts

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.home

[Kennah]

17. Friend of mine is a Catholic, and he's the embodiment of the principle.

He's the closest thing to a spiritual leader for this agnostic pantheist.

[Kelvin Mace]

18. Yes, especially

if you actually follow the rules.

[BrklynLiberal]

20. Jesus was a Liberal!!!

[RBInMaine]

23. Jesus Christ would think the TeaPukes and their rich friends are sickening.

[provis99]

24. sure its possible; if they do what fundamentalists do.

Pick out the parts of the bible they like and trash the rest, just like the fundamentalists.

[LiberalCatholic]

25. look at me...

I am a Catholic. I go to church almost every week, teach CCD, follow all the tenets of my faith and I am a liberal (socialist, really). I believe strongly in my faith, but I recognize that not everyone in the world shares it and that my church is not perfect ('nuff said). I really don't feel that any faith, or person, can truly understand God, anyway. And, yes, I believe in the separation of church and state. I cringe when I hear the hateful, malicious, vile words of some "Christians." If someone hates then they can't really be a follower of Christ. I'm reminded of Gandhi's statement (I'm paraphrasing I think), "I like your Christ. It's your Christians that I don't like..."

[starroute]

26. Slacktivist is another great liberal Christian blog

http://www.patheos.com/community/slacktivist/

[jimlup]

27. More than possible...

Fortunately, I was brought up to think of it the other way around.