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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:50 AM
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Florida Republican WOMAN, blames Texas girl for having been gangraped
Source: Skandinav i Florida

The Florida Republican Kathleen Passidomo blames the parents of the girl for allowing her to go to school dressed "as a prostitute" and thinks that Florida should learn from this horrible incident by enforcing dress codes in schools to avoid such things happening here.

During debate over a bill that would legislate a dress code for Florida students, the so called sagging pants bill, Passidomo said; "There was an article about an 11- year- old girl who was gang raped in Texas because she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute...And her parents let her attend school like that. And I think it's incumbent upon us to create some areas where students can be safe in school and grow up in proper attire so what happened Texas doesn't happen to our students."

Read more: http://www.skandinaviflorida.com/web/sif.nsf/d6plinks/JEIE-8F2MNC



I am speechless...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:57 AM
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1. Next you know they'll be blaming the farm animals....
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 01:57 AM by hlthe2b
for walking around "oh, so, provocatively". :sarcasm:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:25 AM
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23. Have you ever seen the back end of a sheep?.......
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:40 AM
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30. "That there little sheep... she teased and tempted me." nt
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:32 PM
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53. See the "Society for Indecency to Naked Animals"
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:59 AM
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2. I will say the same thing I said
when a 6 year old day care kid was sent home because her outfit was deemed too "sexy & provocative" by a principle....Anyone that finds a 6 year old or an 11 year old sexy, even if they are standing bare-ass naked in front of you has a major problem and it is not the kid. It takes a sick mind to go where this woman's mind went and an unfeeling, emotionlees idiot to say what she said.


BTW the day care kid was in bike pants & top with a long (almost to the knees) loose fitting t-shirt over all of it.


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:30 AM
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26. You'd think it wouldn't need to be said--but sadly, it does. Thank you. nt
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:30 AM
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38. Of course a society that over sexualizes children causes more adults to have that major problem.
No I'm not siding with the republican.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:18 PM
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50. Because gang rapes never happen to girls/women in burkas!
I'm not bashing you here, I'm just saying... two-legged monsters are two-legged monsters regardless of how their prospective victim is dressed.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:05 PM
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80. Hey! Great idea!
I'm sure Ms. Passidomo would be all for that -- until someone told her it was part of Shari'a law. :P
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:42 AM
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44. send her a letter! demand her resignation! you'll feel better.
We are preaching to the choir. Facebook it, send a letter. Always makes me feel better.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:03 AM
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3. Well of course--had she worn a burka, she wouldn't have inflamed the lust of those poor men
:grr:

So remember boys and girls, men are just fleshy masses of uncontrollable urges and women bring rape on themselves by existing. :puke:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:18 AM
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15. Also remember, rape is the result of unfulfilled lust, not a grab for power, not anger,
and not sadism like the FBI keeps telling people it is. Stupid FBI profilers.

It's sad that I need this: :sarcasm:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:09 PM
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67. Criminal profiling is bullshit
From a criminal profile:
He will be either never married, divorced, or married, and if he was or is married his wife will be younger or older. He may or may not live in a rental, and might be lower class, upper lower class, lower middle class or middle class.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/11/12/071112fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all

If you make enough predictions, people will focus on he correct ones and forget the about bad ones.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:21 PM
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60. it does send quite a message to the males in our society...
what a message to have seeping into the minds of our young men...if a girl dresses flashy you can rape her.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:54 PM
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65. That's more restrictive than it usually goes.
"If you see a woman, you can rape her."

:puke::puke::puke:
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:06 AM
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4. Remember: Men Don't Rape Women
Women rape themselves with men :sarcasm:
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:26 AM
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5. and all men rape and all women are victims
sweeping generalizations are awesome. they make all things easy to understand. men rape! women get raped! men never get raped! women never rape! it's all so easy to understand.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:24 AM
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36. Thanks For That Unnecessary Reminder
But you know well rape would be taken WAY more seriously if men are more frequent victims (outside of prisons, of course).

But your type of humorless nitpicking is always a good source of cheap entertainment anyway, so thanks.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
63. Cheap anyway..
nt
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #36
73. Maybe I should've made myself more clear. Prison rape of males is far more common than reported.
Comments like the above make me upset.

The vast majority of males don't rape, never have, and never will. To make it a gender issue misses the real causes of sexual assault.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:50 AM
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75. Did You Even Read The OP?
Republican scumbuckets are already making this into a gender issue, and you are getting upset because I'm mocking their world views.

Jesus Christ, just tear down everyone who's on your side, why don't you?
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:35 AM
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41. In this instance...
...we are discussing something specific. An 11 year old was gang-raped. I'm not sure how you can paint that as someone else's fault besides the men that did the raping. That's the problem with this woman's remarks, too - she's attempting to mitigate the fact that these men raped this little girl by blaming a bunch of other factors like her clothes.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #41
47. Yeah, nice of this NASTY Repub woman to rub it in the face of an 11 year old KID
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:08 AM
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6. Women rape themselves with men. Good one!
+1
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:07 AM
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7. a 21 year-old prostitute?
as opposed to a 30 year-old prostitute?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:37 AM
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8. She doesn't know about statutory rape and she is making laws?
The child is too young to consent.

:banghead:


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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:21 AM
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21. 18 males on an 11 year old and it is her fault.
makes no sense
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:05 AM
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34. she is a LAWYER! if you can believe that!!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #34
51. Did she get her law degree at Costco?
Like Frito Pendejo? (Idiocracy reference)

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:44 PM
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69. no, probably one of those online reichwing law schools.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:56 AM
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9. she did NOT blame the girl; she blamed her PARENTS
There is a significant difference. Not that a school uniform would have protected her, but be fair in criticism.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:37 AM
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10. Don't buy your interpretation
From the quote she said the girl was raped because of how she was dressed. She didn't say the parents dressed her that way but indicated they should have done something about it. So the first person she blames is the girl for how she chose to dress and then blames the parents for not doing something about it. So your trying to say that she is 'only' blaming the parents, in my opinion, is not accurate. Besides the glaring fact that it doesn't matter how a woman or girl dresses that does not make being raped in any way 'their fault'.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:53 AM
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12. it's not my "interpretation." it is her words.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 06:55 AM by northernlights
"she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute...And her parents let her attend school like that."

Presumably her parents do her clothes shopping. Or these days are 11 year olds simply turned loose at the mall with a credit card or wad of cash when they need new clothes?


Besides the glaring fact that it doesn't matter how a woman or girl dresses that does not make being raped in any way 'their fault'.

What part of "Not that a school uniform would have protected her" do you not understand?


But hell, if you want to waste time quibbling with me instead of strengthening your argument against the lawyer, by all means do. Just don't be surprised when your complaint letters end up in the round file on the office floor. :eyes:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:29 AM
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37. How do you know...
..the girl had anything better to wear? If she had nothing else to wear to school, it certainly wasn't her fault. Maybe her other clothes weren't clean, either. It's a little much to ask an 11-year-old to have good judgment about what they are wearing, particularly if they don't have much.

I don't know the condition of the child's home, and their financial situation - nor do you. Blaming an 11-year-old's clothes as the reason she was gang-raped makes no sense.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #37
42. do you know how to read at all?
I didn't blame the girl's clothes. The lawyer that is the subject of the article blamed the girl's clothes.

I blamed the fucking rapists for being rapists.

Seriously. Learn to read. And welcome to ignore. :eyes:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:33 PM
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54. Pleased to be there :)
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. Fuck that. She blamed the girl's CLOTHES, goddammit.
And she implies the clothes brought about the act. You're not offended enough and somehow that is offending me.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:18 AM
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17. your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.
As to you being offended that I am not sufficiently offended for your sensibilities, well all I can say is :rofl:

I personally find it quite ridiculous that anybody blames clothes for rape.

But I find in incredibly offensive that anybody would blame an 11 year old for a rape -- and that is the offense that motivated me to write anything at all.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:24 AM
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22. Let me show you something.
"There was an article about an 11- year- old girl who was gang raped in Texas because she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute..."

Do you see the word 'because' there? Do you see it being used to establish a direct causal relationship between the rape and the clothes? Do you see how I pointed that out without insulting your reading comprehension skills? So you see how I didn't have to laugh at you or anything?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:41 AM
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43. Let me explain something to you.
The headline of the thread and the article say the laywer blamed the 11 year old girl.

The lawyer did not blame the 11 year old girl. The lawyer blamed the clothes.

I, personally, do not blame the 11 year old girl or the clothes. I blame the fucking rapist.


No, you "didn't have to laugh at you or anything?" Instead you found me offensive.

Another one for the ignore list. Good riddance :eyes:
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #43
46. I am fine with my appearance in this thread.
You have misread and misunderstood a great deal. All the way to misreading the headline you are scolding me over. No problem.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #22
77. the "because" does imply blame
i'm with you on this one.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #17
68. and that is why i shared it...
well, that and because i think this lady should lose her job.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:47 AM
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32. maybe the rapists should sue the clothes for enticing them?
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:48 AM by Snoutport
(being VERY sarcastic here)
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:47 AM
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18. She is taking the blame away from the actual fucking rapists.
"There was an article about an 11- year- old girl who was gang raped in Texas because she was dressed like a 21-year-old prostitute"

because.

She was raped because rapists raped her, full stop.

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. agreed. that is a valid point that is supported by the facts
as opposed to the title in the OP and some of the other posters here.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #19
33. the headline on this post is the headline quoted from the website
but regardless, your logic is flawed. any high school debator would eat you for lunch.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #18
24. BZZZZZT.
She was raped because she was dressed like a 21-yr old prostitute.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. So, she asked for it?
She teased with them provocative dress until they couldn't control their male urges? The little tart!


You're kidding, right?
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #27
45. I have posted above.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. No problems
I thought your post was by the person you were engaging. My mistake actually. :)
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:54 AM
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78. i hope!
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:38 AM
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29. She blamed both of them.
Which is horrendous. She's blaming the parents for letting her dress like that and the girl for deciding to dress like that. I'm disgusted I have to share the same air with these wastes of space.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:59 AM
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48. I don't get these republican values
if that poor kid is pregnant they'd probably make her have the baby and then lead a life of poverty trying to raise a kid alone. That would teacher not to dress like that. That is seriously the message if you string all their actions together.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:46 AM
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31. VERY implied message: if SHE hadn't been wearing it
if SHE hand't be wearing it, (her fault-implied) she wouldn't have been raped (her fault-implied) I blame her parents, (shifts implied blame to the parents).

So, if she was talking to the kid herself she would have said something like: "you got raped because you dressed like a prostitute, but it is your parents fault."
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:30 AM
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39. It may have been all the kid had to put on
I don't know, and neither do you - in either case, it's in very poor taste to blame the little girl and her clothes for what happened to her. In fact, I think it's wrong to blame the parents, too. You can't tell me that the parents wanted their 11 year old daughter to get gang-raped, or even foresaw it as a possibility. That's just sick.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #39
57. exactly
for all she knows they came from a church donation box. kids learn to dress from modeling...they see it on tv and they think it is OK. you can't blame a kid for observing and mimicking the main culture they see.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:26 PM
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62. Doesn't make a fucking difference! Still disgusting.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:42 AM
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11. because 21 yr old prostitutes deserve to be gang raped.
:wtf:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #11
40. It's just another variation of...
...women bring it on themselves. An 11-year-old getting gang-raped is naturally everyone else's fault but the men that did the gang-raping. I understand that this is not what people are actually saying, but that is what they are implying as though that mitigates the fact that the child was gang-raped.

It doesn't mitigate it in the slightest.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:43 PM
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59. It is more shocking because it came from a woman, I think. nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:12 AM
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14. How does she know what a 21 year old prostitute dresses like?
Or any other age prostitute for that matter.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:21 AM
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16. . . .
:wtf: Yeah, this is it, Sunshine. A girl/woman should be able to walk out of her house totally nude if she wants to. Go to the local bar, dance naked on the tables while fall-down drunk WITHOUT BEING ASSAULTED BY ANYONE!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:07 AM
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20. This explains why reps don't believe in evolution...they haven't evolved from being neanderthals...
...
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:27 AM
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25. I respectfully disagree, Neanderthals were evolved beyond Republicans.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:28 AM by raccoon

Neanderthals cared for their sick and disabled.



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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:35 PM
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58. lol...good one nt
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:37 AM
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28. This would be the right-wing mindset... it's the bitch's (or her parents') fault
I see it all around me
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:11 AM
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35. Yay Florida!!1!
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:28 PM
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52. she came out and said she was hurt people are upset by her words!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. Good...
...hopefully she will choose them more carefully next time, because her comments made her look like a sanctimonious and insensitive harridan.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:00 PM
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56. No...not good... It was one of those fake apologies.
She didn't apologize to the girl or the family...she said she was sorry people got upset by what she said. One of those fake apologies.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:54 PM
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71. what is good about her blaming people for how they took her words? she isn't apologizing for being
a hateful, insensitive cretin, she is "hurt" because people got mad at her for being that person.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:24 PM
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61. Even IF she were dressed like a prostitute... heck, even if she were NAKED....
Nobody has ANY right to lay a finger on her! (That goes for adult women as well.)
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:24 PM
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76. i agree--this Republican Rep doesn't even address the poor 11 year old girl
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:59 AM
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79. +1
I agree 100% - nobody has the right to sexually assault/rape a person based on their dress.

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:34 PM
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64. There are two purposes for clothes.
a) protection from the environment.
b) projection of a preferred image.

I do have a problem with "the way kids dress these days", because of the message those kids are trying to send.

Saying that kids should be dressed in appropriate clothing is not always the same thing as blaming them for subsequent events.

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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:57 PM
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66. LINK TO THE REPUBLICAN'S APOLOGY she just rubs it in
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:52 PM
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70. so this fine, upstanding roman catholic repuke woman puts the blame for this horrendous crime on the
victim and her parents, NOT on the sick and twisted individuals who committed it. typical repuke, for sure.

by the way, her district office voicemail is not accepting messages right now, and there is an interesting game going on. calling the district office, they tell you to call the tallahassee office. call the state office, they tell you to call the district office.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:58 PM
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72. by the way, kathleen, how do you know how prostitutes dress? hmmmmm?
how DARE you blame the child, or her parents, for the horrendous acts of those 18 sick and twisted males??? the fact that this kind of crap is coming from a woman makes it even more sickening.
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:21 AM
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74. Typical..Need I say more?
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