Morning Joe - Reporter standing outside of Chernobyl Sarcophagus

[jtuck004]

If anyone can record it for youtube, it was an interesting segment, with the sarcophagus over her right shoulder.
Till the shot went dark and they lost her. Most of them laughed.

Showed "The Final" video for a bit. She said about 200 micro Roentgen /hr, about 5 times
higher in other places, but can't go up to sarcophagus.

It shows progress on the outside by comparing other pics from ~2004.

Have to stay several miles away most of the time, South, and going North or NE of there, for a hundred miles or so,
could take you to places where you should not stay for long periods of time.

[snappyturtle]

1. The arrogance on MJ is only superceded by its ignorance...and

the players their bask in in. I truly can't watch or listen to them for longer than 5 min. at a time.

Fortunately nuclear accidents don't occur very often but the havoc they reek isn't worth the benefits. imho

[jtuck004]

2. Aw, it was just on in the background - I had killed the sound long

before I had to listen to them. Had it on earlier. I agree with you.

but I looked up and there was that segment - interesting to see someone standing next to the old plant, talking. She made it
clear she would be leaving shortly, but it puts a little perspective on the problem.

The "zone of exclusion" is mostly the towns around there, perhaps 100 miles to the NE and 50 or so miles north. Had the radiation
drifted the other way it would have taken out Kiev, about 60 miles to the South.

[snappyturtle]

4. Wish I had seen the segment as much as I don't like MJ. Of course,

wouldn't you know it, I mention stupidity and then proceed to use the wrong form of "there"! oops!

[C_U_L8R]

3. Paid for by GE

they are just barking for their master

[robdogbucky]

5. You know it was Michelle Kosinski reporting...

and they just re-played it. I have a feeling it will be re-played again and/or be available at the GEM$NBS/COMCRAP website.

I thought the comment at the end about the re-settlers returning to the exclusion zone and nobody stops them, saying, "it's our home, I don't care about the conditions, it's our home..."

How sad.

I read a while ago one of the Martin Cruz Smith novels with his Russian detective Arkady Renko as hero, which was entitled "Wolves Eat Dogs," where he solves a murder in the exclusion zone. What a truly apocolyptic picture is painted.

In honor of Nadin:

Oh, and the bad guys are all dying of radiation poisoning but the deer are healthy. The woods are burnt red around the area.

One eerie scene has Renko trying to find clues in an adjacent small town, Pryapet, or something, and he hears a door slamming in an abandoned school. He explores that abandoned school and finds the gas masks the kids were getting ready to wear, but had no time to do so. Other similar pictures of time frozen at the time of the disaster makes this a memorable read. Also imparts a lot of information about the Chernobyl disaster and its aftermath.


"...Me, I'm waiting so patiently

Lying on the floor

I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle

Before it rains anymore..."

Jagger/Richards




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[jtuck004]

6. I didn't, but I saw the later segment. Slightly different and longer

video.

Now I know, and thank you.

I never pay much attention to most of these folks, but that took some spirit on her part. She might have picked up a few months extra radiation doing those spots...

[robdogbucky]

7. From what I gathered from the Cruz Smith book

and isn't it telling that one receives more accurate, detailed information from a really good fiction author that actually does the research?

Was that there were/are some individuals that never left the zone. They are mostly elderly Ukrainians that lived there all their lives. Their kids have all left, but they remain with their livestock producing products they ingest, etc. They grow cabbage and potatoes, etc. and eat them. There are also scientific teams that have been there, rotating since the disaster to avoid accumulation of too much radiation during their stays. Everyone with any knowledge has a dosimeter on their person at all times, as one does not know when they step into an area or a building if it will still be hot and their instruments alert them to such.

Unreal that there are scavengers still trying to eak a living out of the place, and most are dying a very slow death from the accumulated radiation over time. Yes, some of the wildlife appears to be flourishing (few predators) and an interesting thing happened to that wildlife. After now a few generations of let's say, deer have been born, and with very few if any people around, they have lost that instinctual fear of humans. They roam around quite unconcerned about humans, because, well, no one has bothered to hunt those deer for several deer generations and the evolutionary traits of that experience have somewhat re-programmed them.

No mistake, the exclusion zone is still deadly dangerous in areas and will be for many decades to come. Scientists do stay to gather data for as long as they can safely do so, then rotate out.



"...the commission is satisfied that the plant's structure will be able to withstand an earthquake in the area -- calculated as a maximum magnitude of 7.5..."

http://m.aol.com/portal/file-01.do?file=N9992%2FN4133%2FN512344133%2Ftnsc-372415489.html

NRC on fact there is no earthquake preparedness plan in place at California's Diablo Canyon to deal with Japan-sized earthquake/tsunami.




"...Me, I'm waiting so patiently
Lying on the floor
I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore..."

Jagger/Richards



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[jtuck004]

8. You might like this

Faces in the second half are very interesting...

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/fourseasons.html

[robdogbucky]

9. Yup, thanks,

I saw this in its earlier iteration, in about 2008 or so.

I see she has expanded it.

It is a remarkable reinforcement of what Martin Cruz Smith found in his research.

It was roundly criticized as being overblown hysteria when it was first disseminated on the net.

Remember when this was dissed on DU?

I do.

If it ain't on Fuxx Snooze then some folks don't believe it.


Even on DU.


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