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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:41 AM
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Police: Lansdowne man stoned to death, Old Testament style for homosexual advances
Police have arrested an Upper Darby man who they say confessed to stoning to death 70-year-old Murray Seidman because he was making "homosexual advances." In his interview with police this week, John Thomas, 28, cited the Old Testament in explaining the murder, police say. Seidman was found dead in his Lansdowne apartment in January.

"I stoned Murrary with a rock in a sock," Thomas told police, according to the criminal complaint.

The complaint states: "John Thomas stated that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned in certain situations. The answer John Thomas received from his prayers was to put an end to the victim's life. John Thomas stated that he struck the victim approximately 10 times in the head. After the final blow, John Thomas made sure the victim was dead."

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/delco/Elderly-Lansdowne-man-stoned.html
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:42 AM
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1. Did they actually put the rocks in socks in the OT?
I thought everyone wore sandals
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:29 PM
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19. Makes me think of "Life of Brian"


No one... is to stone anyone... until I blow this whistle!
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:43 AM
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2. We need to keep out Sharia law!!!
Oh, wait...
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:44 AM
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3. Right
Had nothing to do with the fact that the accused was "the executor and sole beneficiary of Seidman's will".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:44 AM
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4. Sure, blame God for being a bloodthirsty murderous thug
Has to work better than the truth.
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Mulhane Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:58 AM
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5. Someone needs to read the OT
"Bloodthirsty murderous thug" is letting Yahweh off easy.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:03 PM
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6. +1
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:05 PM
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8. Nothing wrong with having a fifth grade understanding of the Bible
As long as you're in the fifth grade.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:47 PM
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11. I guess you haven't read the Bible.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:49 PM
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14. The Bible DOES say to stone homosexuals. Period.
Why excuse it?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:13 PM
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15. Really?
Where does the Bible use the word "homosexual"?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:35 PM
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20. Leviticus 20:13
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:41 PM by FreeState
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  Hmm sounds like homosexuals to me, after all you don't see heterosexual men making love to other men.
 
The word homosexual is a modern invention and isn't in the bible - but you don't need a modern word when it's clear who the authors are referring to.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:40 PM
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22. Umm, yeah, actually, straight dudes do get it on with other guys.
After all, just because one has sex with a man, doesn't mean that he's gay, in the same way that a gay man can have sex with a woman and he's not magically straight.

Or at least that's what I tell my straight friends right after I get them really drunk...and we...
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:43 PM
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23. The verse is talking about sex between man and wife
Sex outside of marriage was not allowed by the Jewish law - it's referring to love making not sex.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:08 AM
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24. So, no homosexual, no stoning
Yep, you're making an airtight case.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:38 PM
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21. Um, yeah, I'm gonna have to call you on your obvious bullshit/ignorance:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

--Leviticus 20:13 KJV

But you know, it doesn't say anything about standing...

Hmmm...

Best loophole of the last 6,000 years!

I think it really should have read:
Ye shall not giveth if ye shall not taketh!

Now that's advice for m4m and those who don't even know the religion they attempt to defend!

So sayeth the Sheppard, so sayeth the flock!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:05 PM
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7. Sounds like the Bible is turning into a terrorist handbook
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:07 PM
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9. Clearly radical christianists are a threat to our way of life.
Protesting the funerals of soldiers, assassinating doctors who provide a legal service, and now murdering gay people.

I look forward to the congressional hearings on this growing threat.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 12:38 PM
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10. What about that pesky 6th commandment...
You know, Thomas, the one about not murdering people? Were you out sick the day that was covered in Sunday school?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:03 PM
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12. I was leaning toward a case of schizophrenia induced religious paranoia
Until I read the murderer was sole beneficiary of the victims will.

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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:03 PM
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13. Executor And Sole Beneficiary Of Seidman's Will
"Executor and sole beneficiary of Seidman's will," Hmmm. As an occasional murder mystery reader, I found that part of the story interesting. Sounds like a warped religionist might have been mixing G*d and Mammon as motives for killing.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:21 PM
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17. +1 The "homosexual advances" is just a ploy.
Always follow the money.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:19 PM
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16. I think eye for an eye applies here
time to put John Thomas down
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:24 PM
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18. damn, just a few miles away from me
How horrible.

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