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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:15 PM
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Paul Krugman: People don't see much difference between Obama's approach to the deficit and GOP


The Forgotten Millions
By PAUL KRUGMAN
March 17, 2011

So one-sixth of America’s workers — all those who can’t find any job or are stuck with part-time work when they want a full-time job — have, in effect, been abandoned.

Yet polls indicate that voters still care much more about jobs than they do about the budget deficit. So it’s quite remarkable that inside the Beltway, it’s just the opposite. Yet the obsession with spending cuts flourishes all the same — unchallenged, it must be said, by the White House.

I still don’t know why the Obama administration was so quick to accept defeat in the war of ideas, but the fact is that it surrendered very early in the game. In early 2009, John Boehner, now the speaker of the House, was widely and rightly mocked for declaring that since families were suffering, the government should tighten its own belt. That’s Herbert Hoover economics, and it’s as wrong now as it was in the 1930s. But, in the 2010 State of the Union address, President Obama adopted exactly the same metaphor and began using it incessantly.

And earlier this week, the White House budget director declared: “There is an agreement that we should be reducing spending,” suggesting that his only quarrel with Republicans is over whether we should be cutting taxes, too. No wonder, then, that according to a new Pew Research Center poll, a majority of Americans see “not much difference” between Mr. Obama’s approach to the deficit and that of Republicans.

Read the full article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/opinion/18krugman.html?_r=1
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:17 PM
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1. More cuts to the poor! More cuts to the needy!
More tax breaks for the rich! More tax breaks for the corporations!

Hmmm, that is a familiar tune...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:19 PM
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2. Obama reminds me of an old cartoon of Barry Goldwater watching TV report of LBJ bombing Vietnam
and saying, ''He's doing what I would have done--but I would have enjoyed it more!''

Obama's constant capitulation to right makes me wonder why we even bother with the pretense of elections.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:20 PM
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3. "why the Obama administration was so quick to accept defeat in the war of ideas"
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 01:28 PM by polichick
That's the big question - why did they surrender in the war of ideas?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:27 PM
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4. That was the Idea,,, fake left, go right,
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:28 PM
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5. So this prez is a great big fraud?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:08 PM
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14. Probably the most damaging fraud this country has suffered
We were on life support under Bush, finally decided to change course, and were then hoodwinked by an infiltrator (infil-traitor?) from the other side.

He may well be the final nail in America's coffin.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:47 PM
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18. You've had the courage to put in writing what nattering nabobs of negativism
like this bunny could only wonder if such were really going down. For the sake of our country, may you have mis-read the tea leaves. :patriot:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:52 PM
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19. I hope I'm wrong, too.
But I don't hold out MUCH hope.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:43 AM
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36. Nope, he is doing exactly what the capitalists hired him to do.
The real question is why we don't take on the capitalists directly (via protests and general strikes) and usher in a new economic system.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:31 PM
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8. he's still faking right, and drawing out/exposing the crazies in the process.
he'll go left in his 2nd term.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:33 PM
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9. "he'll go left in his second term" By then, what will "left" look like?
:shrug:
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:04 PM
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13. Left will be outer Siberia...
Nope, can't go there...to far out.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:35 PM
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10. So President Obama will go to the right for two more years and will go left in 2013?

That'll work .... for the rich.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:35 AM
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31. He aint faking.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 08:37 AM
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33. Back to 11 dimensional chess, are we? n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:57 AM
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39. and pigs will fly too.
:eyes:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:41 PM
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42. No matter how many times I read that, it still makes me laugh.
:rofl:

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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:29 PM
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6. Why do you want to be compared throughout history with being akin to Hoover?
Republican policies that dinos also adopted continue to hurt the economy and employment
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:29 PM
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7. The rich are too poor.

And the poor are too rich.


And our rulers are fixing that.

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:42 PM
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44. That would make an excellent bumper sticker!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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marginlized Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:42 PM
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11. 16% low or no employment = new normal n/t
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 01:56 PM
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12. That's because there's not
Obama is called a "centrist". I call him right-wing authoritarian who has not just accepted the republican world view - he's embraced it. He got soooo many new people fired up and believing his "hope and change" BS back in 08. Ugh. I GUESS Obama is too liberal to be a republican - barely - but he's wayyyyy to conservative to a good Dem leader IMO. This is a real problem.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:10 PM
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15. "I GUESS Obama is too liberal to be a republican - barely"
He'd fit in with the republicans just fine...

But that's not the role he's playing.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:19 PM
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16. Yeah
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 02:20 PM by slay
:( Look like I'm going to have to accept the fact that nobody who is actually really good with the best interests of the american people at heart will ever get close to being in the white house - least not the way things are currently.
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thanks_imjustlurking Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:32 PM
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17. That's about the size of it.
We now have proof that elections don't matter.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:08 PM
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24. Oh but elections DO matter- just not when Democrats win them
even BIG, with a WH, both chambers of Congress and a sweeping mandate.
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thanks_imjustlurking Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:38 AM
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34. I stand corrected. nt
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:54 PM
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20. 400 new billionaires, 46,000,000 on food stamps - what a great country!
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:56 PM
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21. 400 new billionaires, 46 million denied food stamps, that's their end goal n/t
.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:11 PM
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23. You got it right. I'm sure food stamps will be on the
Republican's cut spending list very soon - after all, one certainly can't expect billionaires to pay one more dime of those pesky taxes.
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:03 PM
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40. 400 new billionaires, 46 million without aid, imprisoned for debt crimes and slaving for pennies
in a privately contracted prison.

corrected that for you
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:06 PM
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22. That's because..
... there is no difference. Not of any substance.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:09 PM
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25. And ther is no good reason for them to see
a difference that fundamentally does not exist.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:10 PM
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26. That is because he compromised his way into the arms of the GOP.
Never EVER a compromise with his left base...so...no surprise here at peoples reactions.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:12 PM
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27. Kick
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:21 PM
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28. K&R....n/t
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:15 PM
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29. Kick & Rec!
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:33 AM
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30. Obama - puppet donkey of the hoarding class
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thanks_imjustlurking Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:40 AM
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35. Don't blame him alone.
You can say the same about the vast majority of them. And it's such a bargain for the hoarding class - compare the size of the campaign donations to the size of the bennies they get.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:58 AM
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32. K & R !!!
:kick:
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 09:51 AM
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37. Count me among those 'People' who don't see much difference. nt
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 07:10 PM
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45. Wheee!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:13 PM
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41. Paul Krugman might make a great president.
Everything I read by him is so accurate and clear.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:41 PM
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43. Recommend
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