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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:14 PM
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Nearly 20% of Florida homes are vacant
Nearly 20% of Florida homes are vacant
By Les Christie, staff writerMarch 18, 2011: 2:44 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- It's not always easy to feel sorry for sunny Florida. But they just got hit with another blow.

On Thursday, the Census Bureau revealed that 18% -- or 1.6 million -- of the Sunshine State's homes are sitting vacant. That's a rise of more than 63% over the past 10 years.

Having this amount of oversupply on the market will keep home prices depressed and slow any recovery.

During the housing boom, Florida was among the hottest real estate markets in the nation. Homes were snapped up by the state's growing population as well as hordes of investors confident that prices would continue to soar.

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Who's buying homes? The rich
The vacancy problem is more dire in Florida than in any other bubble market: In California, only 8% of units were vacant, while Nevada, the state with the nation's highest foreclosure rate, had about 14% sitting empty. Arizona had a vacancy rate of about 16%.

In Florida, the worst-hit county is Collier -- home of Naples -- with a whopping 32% of homes empty. In Sarasota County, 23% of the housing stock sits vacant, while Lee County (Cape Coral) has a 30% vacancy rate. And Miami-Dade County has a vacancy rate of about 13%.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/real_estate/florida_vacant_homes/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:16 PM
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1. I only feel sorry for the democrats in Florida
Everyone else keeps electing these republican criminals and wondering why things aren't getting better.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:26 PM
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2. I feel for the people who may have lost those homes
no matter their political views.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:30 PM
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3. One of the problems was over-building.
The homebuilding development industry here in Florida is, or at least was, totally out of control and rampant. And too often they'd get massive projects approved due to a friend or two or three in local government.

What a shame, to see so much of this beautiful state torn apart for development, many of which has gone bust and now you have empty lots where gorgeous nature used to be.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:32 PM
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4. The next major hurricane to strike Florida will take care of that problem
;-)
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 02:38 PM
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5. Yet, they keep cooing that Collier population is RISING
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 02:39 PM by HockeyMom
However, buried in the piece in the local paper, it also says that the number of CHILDREN has increased. Well, try reading between the lines. If 32% of the homes are vacant, who is moving here? Where are all these "new residents" living then?

Hello? Maybe that high vacancy rate and increase in children is not because more families are moving here, but because the people ALREADY LIVING here are having MORE KIDS.

The article also stated that the white population decreased while the hispanic population increased and is now the majority in Collier. Again, reading comprehension. Elderly, white, retired people aren't relocating here, or having children.

In summation, and to refute that local paper, the Hispanic population already living in Collier County is having more children. Not a commentary, just a conclusion from putting 2 and 2 together.

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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:19 PM
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6. this is good for my grandpa in cape coral
his property taxes should go down on the house he lives in.... the thing to do i guess is to start squatting all these houses, i bet the gangs in cape coral love all the potential new houses to run crack and heroin out of.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:55 PM
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7. Why would his property taxes go down?
Vacant houses means that people have left the area and are not paying their property taxes. So the same or more expenses for county government fall into fewer and fewer laps and the property taxes will be adjusted up to meet the need.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:57 PM
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8. Yep.. the people "left behind" will have to make up the losses
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 03:57 PM by SoCalDem
theoretically rates "should" drop, but count on them going up because the cost of government will NOT drop, as revenues drop.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:06 PM
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14. sarcasm
meant to highlight that his property value would be going down down down....
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 03:59 PM
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9. So will the quality of schools, roads, emergency services
accordingly.

I love paying property taxes. You can actually use what they're spent for.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:08 PM
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15. it was sarcasm
to highlight the corresponding fall in property values, and if we had the rich pay more in income tax we could fund our schools on thier back instead of on the backs of middle and working class homeowners. I pay taxes to have a social system but am not happy to do so in the usa as the wealthy pay too little in tax, i am more happy about it in france and if i spoke finnish i think i would like it better there....
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:22 PM
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10. Squatters head for Florida.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:23 PM
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11. Have known for 20+ years Boomers not retiring to Florida
Studies of Baby Boomers 20+ years ago documented a major part of the demographic problem we now see in Florida and elsewhere. Boomers are far less likely to retire to Florida than were the previous generation. Even if they could afford to retire.

The migration of retirees from Nothern industrial cities to Florida first destroyed the housing markets and tax bases in many urban areas. The Florida housing market requires a new batch of retirees each year to replace those who have died. Cruel to look at it this way, but it is no surprise to anyone who was paying attention.

Of course, lots of speculative overbuilding in FL and several other poorly regulated states.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:24 PM
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17. Does Florida have a two tier tax structure because of property tax
growth limits for current owners?

Long time residents are preferred to new residents for property taxes (Save Our Homes). Nice to think about but it will through a cold blanket on any recovery.

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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 04:26 PM
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22. why move to Florida if you already live in the sunbelt?
There are 110,000,000 people in the sun belt where there wasn't before, the potential incentive for these people to relocate to Florida upon retirement is greatly diminished.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:24 PM
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12. Housing for the homeless.
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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:27 PM
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16. I agree. use them to provide homes for the homeless.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 04:28 PM
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13. just in my short dog walkie, there are 4-5 abandoned homes and several more long-time vacant
with 'for sale' signs.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:26 PM
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18. Wait! Wait! Didn't everyone want to move south?
All that hideous humidity is good, right?

:shrug:
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:09 AM
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19. And with 20% vacancy Prick Scott moves to make development easier
He is attempting to dismantle the state agency that oversees community planning. The Department of Community Affairs has been accused by developers of being obstructive, so of course, Scott wants it out of the way of the poor, beleaguered businessmen. House unveils bill to gut growth-management laws: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-03-17/news/os-growth-management-gutted-20110317_1_local-growth-decisions-population-growth-growth-management/2

At the same time, they are pushing to reduce environmental oversight: House moves bill to 'streamline', or 'unravel', environmental permitting laws: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/house-moves-bill-streamline-or-unravel-environmental-permitting-laws
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:18 AM
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20. I want to leave the west coast....this seems promising.....LOL.....
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voteearlyvoteoften Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 03:28 PM
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21. 80 degrees sunny no humidity
Azaleas in bloom, spring green leaves on the trees.
I think I'll go for a boat ride on the river, and I won't bother with shoes or a jacket.
Maybe I'll sit outside tonight and watch the full moon rise.
Newer homes nearby selling for 40-60 a sq ft.
Rick Scott still sucks and 90's are coming...but looks like a sweet year to come down and visit.
See Ya

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