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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:10 PM
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Welcome back to the Caribbean Mr. Aristide
Haiti is your home and no foreign power has the right to kick you out of your own country.
Time to rebuild Haiti.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:10 PM
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1. Glad to give you rec #1
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:12 PM
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2. Let's hope he is here to stay
w/out anymore interference.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:15 PM
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3. The good news is that the Obama administration
backed off and let him go home. They wanted him to wait until after the election but they did not attempt to stop him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:26 PM
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6. Obama called the SA president to ask him not to let him fly out.
Maybe they didn't want to do more than that.

SA paid for the flight.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:27 PM
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8. Well let's thank the South Africans then
Damn!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:31 PM
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10. I don't know much about SA.
But they have been under a lot of pressure.

Maybe it's a good thing that American pressure doesn't always win out. :)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:35 PM
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11. Zuma was an ANC activist
A real street fighter. He's not popular with the West anyhow.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:42 PM
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14. Well then, I expect President Chavez to praise him fulsomely
any minute now.

lol
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:20 PM
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4. KR!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:24 PM
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5. Amy Goodman has been with him all day and this is how she left
the reception when they finally got home.

?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1300487975&Signature=oKYb4bxIRiacsfouncJpxcPD0U8%3D

Lots of interesting stuff at Sharif Kouddous's Twitter account:

http://twitter.com/#!/sharifkouddous
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:27 PM
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7. Thanks a million for the links
Lovely :fistbump:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:29 PM
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9. It's so wonderful to see a GOOD story about Haiti in the news
for ONCE. :toast:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:37 PM
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13. We have some good news stories since
over 100 of their university students are finishing their degrees at University of the West Indies in Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago and Barbados. They lost hundreds of faculty and students as well as university buildings.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:44 PM
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17. That's excellent news. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:35 PM
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12. P.J. Crowley, former asst. to the Sec. of State
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 05:36 PM by sabrina 1
tweeted yesterday that 'what Haiti does not need is the return of Aristide right before the elections'.

The U.S. were behind the coup of Aristide, removing the people's choice illegally for which there has been no accountability.

Wikileaks cables reveal without a doubt who has kept Aristede from returning to his country and as most of us suspected, it is U.S. policy to deprive the Haittian people of their democratically elected president.

Our foreign policies are simply shameful. I hope he is safe from U.S. influence in Haiti. I am very concerned that he may not be.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:43 PM
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15. He isn't safe. Haiti is an occupied country.
All the more credit to him and to his wife for taking their family back. People like the Aristides don't grow on trees, that's for sure.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:50 PM
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20. Yes, he is a very courageous man.
We don't seem to like people of courage and integrity in this country. We can only hope that two coups of the same man might make a third too risky as our image has taken a real hit considering all the revelations the 'new media' has exposed regarding U.S. foreign policy.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:54 PM
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21. The government tends to ignore Latin American and the Caribbean
when the Middle East is hot.

With the ME exploding this year, that might be just the window our neighbors in this hemisphere need to consolidate and expand the democratic advances they made while BushCo was obsessed with Iraq and ignored the region.

I hope so.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:00 PM
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26. Very true. While what happened in Iraq was a crime of mammoth
proportions, it did give Latin America a chance to grow democratically. Hopefully you are right. And there is far more coverage of foreign news now than there was then. I imagine few Americans knew much if anything about the Venezuelan and Haittian coups back then.

As Hillary said 'we are losing the information war and are having trouble getting our message across'. That can only be a good thing, imho.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:44 PM
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16. The US kicked Aristide out of his own country
Fugg P.J. Crowley - I hope they ban him from his homeland one day.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:48 PM
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18. I was part of the effort in '92 to get the OAS to return him to Haiti. Passed him in the hall
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 05:59 PM by leveymg
at OAS HQ in DC back then. He was moving quickly with his entourage.

Still is. Finally, finally will Haiti be allowed its own leadership . . . ?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:50 PM
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19. You're a good person
:hi:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:56 PM
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22. It's been interesting
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 05:57 PM by leveymg
in the "belly of the beast" (Washington). Back at you :hi: :thumbsup:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:56 PM
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23. Why do you think DC let him go home?
Too much on their plate already?

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:58 PM
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24. Yah think?
:D
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:00 PM
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27. A complete economic collapse, the Middle East rising,
multiple meltdowns in Japan, labor marching in the MidWest.

The only thing not on Obama's plate is an alien landing and it's only March!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:05 PM
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28. For decades, the most benign thing the US has done in the world is
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 06:06 PM by leveymg
to be distracted.

A reckon we also have far less influence and "soft power" around the world. We're kinda like Britain in the late 1940s, empire falling apart, and trying to adapt, but still so big and clumsy we step on people.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:11 PM
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29. Here's hoping we settle in to the new role with some grace.
lol
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:36 PM
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30. Actually, I think Obama has danced pretty well during recent rounds. I'd give him
decent marks if I were judging the show.

But, he makes me nervous, as do Gates and the other "adults." They are capable of (and have demonstrated) a frightful aptitude for great harm in the world. Mistakes rarely go unrewarded in Washington.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 06:45 PM
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31. That's pretty much how I feel, too. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:14 PM
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33. He's better than Bush and Cheney but that can't be hard n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 05:58 PM
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25. He's gone back a couple times. We're all just riding the waves.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:39 PM
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32. K&R. (nt)
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