Who gave you the right to intervene in our local affairs?

[malaise]

That is a legitimate question.

[KharmaTrain]

1. When Your Local Affairs Conflict With My "National Interest"...

That's been the US foreign policy for the past century. The business of America must move foreward.

:hi:

[lib2DaBone]

3. Agree. Stop policing the world. FIx our roads and bridges at home.

The solution seems so simple.. why can't anyone in the White House grasp it?

[The2ndWheel]

13. Because it only seems simple

[Joe the Revelator]

21. When did I stumble into a tea party forum???

Strange

[malaise]

4. Isn't that the truth

Good morning :hi:

[madokie]

2. Yes it is

Not sure where you're going with this if you're even going anywhere but what you said is so true. American hegemony is proof of that. :hi:

rec

[malaise]

10. Check this out

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12792637
<snip>
All three states have been using violence to crush pro-democracy protests.

But only against Libya are the US and its Western allies planning a military response.

Yemen and Bahrain's crackdowns have so far been met only with words, not action.

Bahrain and Yemen are US allies - especially Bahrain with its large US naval base. Libya is not.

The US response to Bahrain is further complicated by neighbouring Saudi Arabia, Washington's number one Arab ally.

The Saudis were not happy to see Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak go.

But what happened to the "universal values" US President Barack Obama cited when he eventually backed protesters in Egypt?

[madokie]

17. Gadafi doesn't fit in with their plans I guess

their meaning the corps who controls our government.

If our President doesn't come out and be honest with us concerning our corporate overlords who are making him toe the line he'll only get my vote in '12 because of his being the lessor of two bads and thats providing someone with some credibility doesn't run against him from our side then in that case the President won't get my vote at all.

Its pretty plain to me that when he was running for the Presidency he had no idea that the oval office came with a boss as he's found out. Personally I don't look for him to run again too many odds against his winning because of what I suspect his not being a good player in the power pool.

Sad cause I really liked the candidate Obama and love his family

[malaise]

20. Good post

All American Presidents are hawks in foreign policy matters.

I like him too but I'm not supporting warmongering based on lies

[slackmaster]

5. Who gave YOU the right to intervene in what goes on inside of my home?

An even more legitimate question.

[malaise]

14. No it isn't - you are attacking countries that aren't even close to

your home.

[slackmaster]

16. Ah, so this thread is about attacking countries

That wasn't clear from your OP.

[GodlessBiker]

6. I agree that perhaps we need to choose our battles wisely, but I think ...

anyone has the right to step in to assist people who are being murdered.

It's a tougher question as to whether it's immoral not to help them if you can, but I think it's fairly clear that you have the right to help them if you choose to.

If the government were rounding up "others" and shooting them against a wall, or gassing them, would we have the right to help? Or is it just the use of bombs from planes that is clouding the issue?

[malaise]

7. Then the rest of the world should intervene and establish a

no fly zone around the NRA headquarters in the USA

[spanone]

8. we are the all powerful Oz

[FLPanhandle]

9. Should the UN have intervened in Rwanda?

It was a local affair too.

[Joe the Revelator]

22. That's different! It's one thing to not like what bush failed to do, but we also have to find a way

To hate when Obama does what he should do.

[greytdemocrat]

11. Did we invade

Jamaica last night??? Damn, why don't people tell me these things???? B-)

[logosoco]

12. Perhaps the world would be a much mellower

place if Jamaica would start invading more countries!!!!!!!!

[malaise]

15. That was a quote from one of two letters sent to

Obama and the British and French leaders.

[snappyturtle]

18. This is a very legitimate question. I sit here ahast that the U.S.

is becoming involved.

[hansberrym]

19. The Commerce Clause Compels you! The Commerce Clause Compels you!

The Commerce Clause Compels you to enlist in the battle againt Gadaffi!

In an earlier day, our leaders stated openly that "we will not go in search of monsters to destroy". But today, America is seen by our Congres as a sort of nation state Father Damien, whose mission is to exorcise evil from the world. Worse yet, they think of themselves, not only as unbound by the Constitution, but instead positively empowered by that document to utilize any and every power they see fit to carry out their vision of a better world.


If "Economic Decision-Making Is an Activity Subject to Congress’s Commerce Clause Power", then surely it is squarely within Congress' power, and certainly in our national interest in seeing that the Constitution is not undermined, to make war upon any sovereign nation whose leader(s) make economic decisons which conflict with the desires of Congress. "Seriously, seriously" the world must come to understand that Congress' power over commerce with foreign nations is plenary, and knows no bounds outside the four corners of the Constitution!


With all due respect to Sinclair Lewis: Fascism came to America wrapped in the flag and the Commerce Clause.