"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

[sixmile]

-U.S. President Barack Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/19/obama-libya-statement-pre_n_838012.html

'President Barack Obama authorized limited military action against Libya Saturday, saying Moammar Gadhafi's continued assault on his own people left the U.S. and its international partners with no other choice. The Pentagon said 112 cruise missiles were launched from US and UK ships and subs, hitting 20 targets.

Obama said military action was not his first choice.

"This is not an outcome the U.S. or any of our partners sought," Obama said from Brazil, where he is starting a five-day visit to Latin America. "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

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[bowens43]

11. Just like bush in Iraq......

there is no difference between this and that.

[WinkyDink]

28. Really? There was no rebellion and no retaliation in Iraq. We simply....invaded.

[meow mix]

2. k&r

go rebels

[somone]

3. "We cannot stand idly by when the Wisconsin tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy"?

What about that fucking little dictator in Madison?

[Joe the Revelator]

5. When he starts murdering people we can send in the tanks..

[Duer 157099]

8. Or causes them to commit suicide n/t

[sixmile]

10. Oh, how I wish suicide was the policy of tyrants!

Goodbye military industrial complex.
Hello solar power.

[ingac70]

4. Tell it to the despots running Bahrain and Yemen, Mr. Pres. n/t

[bowens43]

6. Obama gets us into yet another war

this guy is a walking disaster......

[howaboutme]

13. But but but - it's about our freedom

When you have the strongest military in the world there must be this overwhelming desire by the CinC to use it. Or as they say use it or lose it.

The first thing that needs done is cut our military budget in half. Then we only have as much military as half of the rest of the world.

[doc03]

15. Just what would McCain had done differently than Obama

has done?

[chowder66]

30. "Gets us into another war"?

Please tell me which other war Obama got us "into"?

[Monique1]

35. Obama did not get us into another war

Your baby Bush got us into Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama did not get us into any wars yet. I am a progressive but sure wish some country would just end this evil Gadafi.
It is the United Nations who requested this move.

[chowder66]

37. Did you mean to reply to 6?

Here's hoping....

[doc03]

38. Don't you get kinda tired trying to defend Obama, I know

have.

[LiberalAndProud]

7. The tyrant will soon be gone.

We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free. In a free Iraq, there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/mar/18/usa.iraq

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. Dah Dwead Piwate Woberts thaid, "There will be no thuvivoths!"

[DirkGently]

12. "No matter how many teachers and pensioners we must destroy to afford it!" Hiphiphurahh.

[kenny blankenship]

14. Sure we can. But in this case, that would mean standing by idly for a long civil war/terror campaign

in which every car bombing in Tripoli, or every sniping of a police officer in Ras Lanuf would send oil markets into ever greater tizzies and conniptions. It could go on for years and encompass the ruin of the United States through $200/bbl oil. So, this is one tyrant we can and shall do something about! Other tyrants are safe for the foreseeable. They can promise no mercy to their domestic enemies, because it doesn't really affect us if Burmese Generals are murderous scumbags, or else because we are prohibited from moving against them, like the heavily armed Kim Jong Il.

[sixmile]

21. +1

The world can band together to rain down fire and death on Libya, but we can't get together to rain down water on a nuclear reactor.

[joshcryer]

24. So should we go after other tyrants?

I fucking love this logic! It's so transparent!

[NashVegas]

16. Unless That Tyrant Is a Republican Governor Busting Unions

[HereSince1628]

17. You took the words right out from under my fingers!

Oh, well, limited oid in Wisconsin...but we've got GOLD deposits! We just need to get rid of those nasty environmental laws that make it business unfriendly to mine them.

[rug]

18. "I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."

George W. Bush, May 25, 2004

[Scurrilous]

19. K & R

:thumbsup:

[HipChick]

20. We stood idly by while many an African dictator killed their own

Idi Amin comes to mind..

[joshcryer]

22. So are you saying we should stand idly by now, or we shouldn't have then?

:shrug:

[chowder66]

33. +1

[sixmile]

23. So that time is over now?

If so, let's get new uniforms and have a parade. There's still genocide and death in Africa every day. Where is the coalition to deal with that?
btw Gaddafi was pretty tight with Amin.

[joshcryer]

26. The UN is incompetent, if we can legitimize it then those other African tyrants can be disposed of.

[joshcryer]

27. The UN is incompetent, if we can legitimize it then those other African tyrants can be disposed of.

[WinkyDink]

32. Was that good that we did? What's your point?

[Jack Rabbit]

25. "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy"

Let the invasion of Wisconsin begin.

The Libyan people will handle Brother Colonel.

[joshcryer]

29. Do you believe that Walker and Gaddafi are comparable?

[Jack Rabbit]

39. Only in a broad sense

Walker hasn't ordered officers to shoot into a crowd of protesters yet, but the protesters are only talking about recalls, not revolutions.

Nevertheless, Walker is a tyrant who does what he pleases and decides who have shall rights and who shall not. He has as much use for democracy as Brother Colonel does and as much use for the facts as Bush the Frat Boy.

The only reason not to call Walker a tyrant is the theory, for which there seems to be some real evidence, that he is just a stooge for the Koch Brothers, who are really running things. In that case, perhaps the federal government should go into Wisconsin and restore a republican (please note the small r) form of government in the state.

[onenote]

40. absurd

I have a lot of family in Wisconsin. They include union members, school teachers, doctors, and corporate executives. Some of them are very conservative. Some are progressive. Not a single one would view life in Wisconsin under Walker as remotely resembling life under Gadaffi. To suggest even a "broad" comparability is absurd.

[Jack Rabbit]

42. Then we disagree

Life in Wisconsin is quite different than it is in Libya, but that makes Walker no less a tyrant than Gaddafi when he usurps power he does not have in order to violate a worker's right to have a labor union represent him in collective bargaining. I will not say that Walker is violating any natural right, but that is because capitalism and its associated social relationships do not exist in a state of nature. Neither collective bargaining nor the ownership of private property are natural rights. On the other hand, one living in a state of nature would expect to be free to hunt, forage and find shelter, and to be protected by some sort of tribal authority (i.e., government) that does not use its power arbitrarily against him or members of his family. Those are natural rights, and those Gaddafi has violated while Walker has not.

[joshcryer]

43. Actually, the recall of Walker is similar to the ousting of Gaddafi.

It's the same thing, both refuse to stand down. Effectively Gaddafi killed people over a Walker-esque situation.

[krabigirl]

31. Horrible. Nt

[sabrina 1]

34. Then why are we standing idly by on Bahrain and Yemen

and the Ivory Coast and Algeria and how about Iraq where the government is killing protesters also?

How about the brutality in Afghanistan? Oops, I guess WE'RE doing that! They are out of luck I guess.

What hypocrisy. They are there for the oil, that is all.

I hope the Libyan people who are being used the same way the Iraqi people were used as an excuse to invade THEIR country, have better luck than the poor Iraqis have with us 'standing up for them'!

[Monique1]

36. Oy Vey!

[niyad]

41. like when the repukes declare war on nearly all of us???