so. another war.

[barbtries]

more war. i feel very sad.

[WatsonT]

1. Oh but this is a good war

for some reason.

[The Northerner]

2. I feel the same

Too bad not all of us do

[nmbluesky]

3. well.. I think this is right way..

because the LIbyan leader bomb those people.. that's why international must stop it..

[barbtries]

6. that's how i felt during the first gulf war.

but i don't any more. i'd be for sending aid. but bombing the shit out of the country. nope. i can't get behind it. i know ghadafi or quaddaffi or however it's spelled is a bad guy. i worry that if the revolution fails, anyone involved in it will be summarily murdered by him. but somehow i believe we could promote the good without bombing the crap out of the country.

"in my mind i can't study war, no more
save the people/save the children
save the country...now" - laura nyro

[HowHasItComeToThis]

4. DON'T HAVE DISPAIR,,,, BOYKIN AND HIS GENERALS STILL HAVE TIME FOR IRAN

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[LiberalAndProud]

5. weary and heavy hearted

War without end. Amen.

[gateley]

7. How about waiting to see if it actually becomes a war? The Libyan

people don't think we've invaded, don't consider it a war. I'll defer to their feelings on this rather than others who aren't being affected and just pass judgment from thousands of miles away.

[barbtries]

8. headline on msnbc.com:

American, European forces launch airstrikes in Libya
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

another headline from the same front page: US official: 'Just first phase' of operations

cnn.com:
GADHAFI FORCES ATTACKED
U.S., allies strike targets in Libya

somehow i don't think the people under attack are going to be worrying the semantics. and i am not. even if we finish it up tomorrow, i deplore it and i call it war.

[gateley]

10. That's your opinion and it's certainly valid, I still disagree but I do

see your point. :shrug:

[barbtries]

11. thanks gately.

i don't think i will be able to muster support for war again in this lifetime. i despise what is happening in libya, i do. i deplore our part in it as well. it's time like these that shake my faith in the spiritual evolution of our species. and i need that faith to keep putting one foot in front of the other.
there's apparently a new, huge slick in the gulf of mexico. just heard about it. a dear friend, the founder of Justice for Murdered Children, just lost her sister on monday in phoenix: murdered, shot by an 18-year-old who was her friend's son. japan, oh japan. haiti. new orleans. just today a fb friend who visited there recently said it was sad because so much of it is still destroyed. she's been sick since she was there but stopped short of saying it was the food.
i just can't wave the old red white and blue the way i did in the early '90s. i don't believe anymore. certainly not in the motives of our government. when this whole thing with libya began brewing and ghadaffi came out swinging i told my sons here's another war for us. they didn't believe me. i didn't want to be right.
i just feel sad right now.

[HappyMe]

18. I agree. It's just gets to be too much.

:(

[gateley]

19. That might be where we disconnect - I'm not viewing this as a war, but I may

be being naive and unrealistic. I think I'm feeling this will be go in, take out Qaddafi's jets and weapons, then let the people have a fighting chance.

I don't think any nation wants to get involved in another war, nor do their people.

In a way I'm encouraged about the spiritual evolution of our species when I see that people who have been oppressed for so long are standing up and fighting for their rights, when I see them come together like they did in Egypt and in Wisconsin, when I see the joy and support expressed by people from around the world for these warriors. It gives me hope -- we're seeing that people "over there" are just like us!

There will always be those who are horrid human beings, but I think that good will triumph.

That being said, there's no way to understand or accept a tragedy like your friend's sister's murder. And yes, Japan. I think those people have gone through horrors that no one else has, yet they get decimated again.

I hope you're not right in this instance, but I can't be certain I am, either. So we'll just hope for the best and keep these people in our hearts, and see how it progresses. I don't want to give up trying to help. I don't want to give up on our country. I don't want to give up on the goodness in people. :hug:

[barbtries]

21. you're right.

i'm with you on every other statement you make :hug:

[ixion]

9. yep, me, too

:(

[joshcryer]

12. I was sad a month ago when Gaddafi ordered his own people to be murdered.

I was sad today because someone I followed closely in Libya was killed trying to tell people like you what was happening in his country.

[meow mix]

14. +rec

[barbtries]

15. people like me,

okay.

[ProgressIn2008]

13. I don't think we're supposed to look closely enough to feel sad. Our team, after all. nt

[Billygoat Gruff]

16. Why not bomb the Ivory Coast, Nigeria and all the

Other countries who are slaughtering their people? We still haven't lifted a finger in Darfur. Couldn't be because they are too Dark to help. Or that they have no Oil to steal.

[barbtries]

17. i think that's a good point.

why aren't we bombing hell out of other countries in order to save THEIR citizens? it has to be resources there is no other reason that makes sense. money trumps humanity. greed takes the day. :(

[TheCanadianLiberal]

20. I'd stock up on milk...

This war will be here soon and we all need to have the basics. I'd stock up on milk I were everyone.

[sad sally]

22. Can't seem to get enough of those forever wars.

Guess with the amount spent on military R&D and the resulting weaponary, you have to figure there's always going to be a need to put them to use. And by seeing all the tanks and planes blown up, they'll need to be replaced - good news for those corporations who make them.

Isn't it sad that all this waste couldn't be put to saving this planet instead of destroying it?

peace...compasion will cure more sins than condemnation. (from Plymouth Pulpit)

[Urban Prairie]

23. What the use of having all of these new-fangled war toys and million $$$

ordnance just sitting around, unused. We have all of those hundreds of military bases around the world. War is big business, and since the turn of the century, as far as the MIC is concerned, business has been booming. What recession?

And of course the US has all of those military contractors and ordnance assemblers who need to make more in order to justify having their contracts renewed. I am sure that they and their stockholders are hoping that "Operation Odyssey Dawn" will soon need to be renamed Operation Odyssey Fortnight.