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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:57 PM
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How many who support a no-fly zone over Libya would have supported a
no-fly zone over Gaza during Operation Cast Lead?

It was widely condemned by the UN, every human rights group--Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc.

Israel bombed a densely populated civillian area (world' most) where people were trapped, unable to leave being under a siege recognized by the Red Cross, the UN, the EU, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch as illegal under international law.

According to the Goldstone Report, which is quite moderate when compared to the general spectrum of reports on Gaza (Amnesty, HRW, Duggard) the purpose of Operation Cast Lead was to "humiliate and terrorize a civilian population, radically diminish its local economic capacity both to work and to provide for itself, and to force upon it an ever increasing sense of dependency and vulnerability"


So for those DUers who support a no-fly zone over Libya would you have supported a no-fly zone over Gaza during Operation Cast Lead? And, if not why?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:01 PM
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1. Obama would never do anything about it so never mind.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:02 PM
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2. Yes, I'm aware--but it's a purely hypothetical question for those who are claiming some moral
ground for the no-fly zone.

I'm wondering.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:05 PM
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3. The moral gound stops pretty short of launching cruse missles
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:06 PM
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4. What ihave noticed is our morality is mostly after the fact.
If we were really appalled by them we shouldn't help them stay in power by doing business with them.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:11 PM
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5. One can consider the other without comparing them.
If it's humanitarian, that's one thing. If it is to bring about a political result, that's another. And those two can lap over each other. I don't know if it is a good thing for any nation to declare and enforce a no-fly zone in any other nation. I doubt that it could be other than as a strictly humanitarian effort. Why we didn't in Israel, I don't know. Israel is off limits, unequivocally, for some reason. The US has Israel's back, no matter what. I've never figured that out. Israel is above the rules. But this thing in Libya. If we're stopping a slaughter, I don't have that much of a problem with it, although I don't see how it eventually ends without us sending troops in. And then we've got a whole different ball game.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 11:12 PM
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6. I would have supported the US not vetoing such a plan.
But, that is just not practical. Since it's not practical can we really compare the situations?

Where the UN can make a difference shouldn't we be glad?
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