So going into Iraq was the right thing to do because of Saddam's treatment of the Kurds?

[Ringo-san]

Isn't that the logic being thrown around in regards to Libya? Maybe the answer is to quit meddling in other countries affair. Say it with me. We are not the world police. Let's start closing some of our military bases instead of participating in every conflict that comes along.

[ProSense]

1. "Isn't that the logic being thrown around in regards to Libya? "

No, Bush was wrong. Bush lied.

[elleng]

14. Right, thanks, Pro.

These situations actually require people to THINK, and I pray we can get into the habit of doing so.

[dkf]

16. So if Bush said it was because of Saddam's treatment of his people you would be okay with that

Who knew Bush could have gotten liberal support with that angle.

[Poll_Blind]

2. Rape rooms, Ringo-san! Rape rooms! And the peance-freeance in Iraq!

PB

[doc03]

3. +1

[demwing]

4. It might have been

but you know that's NOT why we went, and that Bush lied to justify our going. Even if there were good reasons for ousting SH, the Iraq war was a lie.

[populistdriven]

5. what about the 500000 to 1 million kids that starved in iraq under sanctions?

Estimates of civilian deaths during from the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 1.5 million, most of them children.<10>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_sanctions


Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1084



Amy Goodman:
... many say that, although president Bush led this invasion, that president Clinton laid the groundwork with the sanctions and with the previous bombing of Iraq. You were president Clinton’s U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.... the U.N. sanctions, for example ... led to the deaths of more than a half a million children, not to mention more than a million Iraqis.

Governor Richardson:
Well, I stand behind the sanctions. I believe that they successfully contained Saddam Hussein. I believe that the sanctions were an instrument of our policy.

Amy Goodman:
To ask a question that was asked of U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Madeleine Albright, do you think the price was worth it, 500,000 children dead?

Governor Richardson:
Well, I believe our policy was correct, yes
http://www.globalissues.org/article/105/effects-of-sanctions

[aquart]

8. So there is NOTHING that can be done to an outlaw nation?

And there will always be a place for the conscientious objector.

But now we are to blame for Saddam's treatment of his own people? NO, we are not.

[babylonsister]

6. Wow. Epic Fail. DIMSON=DADDY=Oil=NOTHING TO

DO WITH KURDS, but thanks for playing. :eyes:

[Maru Kitteh]

10. Brought to you by FUX news! Amazing, isn't it? n/t

[aquart]

7. That was at least ten years too late and completely pointless.

If we'd waited for him to die "naturally," his sons would have been dead in a week and we could have come in as honest brokers. Now other countries get to reap that windfall.

It was stupid from start to finish. And it isn't finished.

The nations of this world are not now, not ever, going to link arms in a circle and sing Kumbya.

This joint effort is close, though.

[TheKentuckian]

9. We aren't and do not have to go into anywhere. There are different types of actions.

You are demanding the use of our Security Council veto to stop the UN action which means you've been boxed into opposing the global community and actively supporting Qaddafi.

[NYC Liberal]

11. No, the first and primary reason (excuse) for the invasion of Iraq

was that Saddam had nukes and bio/chemical weapons that he was going to use imminently. And that was bullshit.

[Keith Bee]

12. You're showing your straw, man.....

...argument.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. 2 months ago Libya was all but forgotten, nobody cared

what happened to anybody there. Now that gas is $4 it's time to drop bombs.

[stockholmer]

15. millions killed by civil wars in sub Saharan Africa, & no USA/UN/NATO massive invasions,case closed

This adventurism is further ensuring the collapse of the USA via the sheer expense of conducting these empiric wars, no matter how hard they spin the so-called humanitarian angle.