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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:06 AM
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Poll question: If a Republican was president, would you have a different opinion on Libya?
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:07 AM by proud2BlibKansan
Be honest. If a republican was president, would anyone here be supporting our military attacking Libya?

If you read any right wing blogs today, you see pretty overwhelming condemnation of President Obama attacking Libya. Yet when we illegally invaded Iraq, you wouldn't have been able to find many republicans condemning Bush. Their partisan slip is showing - actually it's glaring - today.

So, how many here are opposed to all wars, regardless of who is in the White House?

How many didn't support the war on Iraq but support the attack on Libya - because the president is a Democrat?
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:17 AM
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1. I don't support war
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:18 AM by AC_Mem
But I also can't watch an insane tyrant slaughter innocent people and feel that we shouldn't join the world in bringing this to a stop.

So I'm conflicted on this really. I feel better knowing that we are not going into this alone; that we are joining forces with the world in stopping this crisis.

Also, I do support President Obama over any republican president simply because I don't think that he really has a lust for war. I don't think he wants to make these decisions, but as President he must. You can look at him and see that these are decisions that he does not want to make.

I support my President. I think he has done a good job in the face of crisis after crisis after crisis and he gets absolutely no credit for anything. The right will crucify him no matter what decision he makes. He could balance the budget and get us a surplus and they would still hate him and blame him for not getting it done fast enough.

2012 is coming quickly. If we don't want a republican president, we better start supporting President Obama and helping him to continue the progress. Please volunteer!

Annette


edited for capitalization error
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:21 AM
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4. So when do we stop?
Will we be joining the world in the attack on North Korea next?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:29 AM
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:25 AM
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26. You haven't
Where have you watched an insane tyrant slaughtering innocent people? I have not seen it.

I have only heard the talking heads on the news claim it's happening.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:21 AM
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2. So with these poll results in mind, the big questions now, are,:
Will any of us remember this when we go to the polls next november?

And if the answer is yes, Who will be our next president?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:23 AM
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5. I know I won't be voting for a republican
And unless they find a decent candidate (so far, they have not) Obama has a pretty good chance of being re-elected.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:21 AM
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3. k/r
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:23 AM
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6. I don't think any of the wars waged in the Middle East have achieved anything
Remove one dictator, another comes in. I think that large scale war might be a western concept and more "effective" against other western countries.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:24 AM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:27 AM
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9. In defense of Obama, he would have a hard time going against the UN
No I don't support what we are doing to Libya. But being a part of the UN means we go along with what they decide to do.

That being said, I disagree with the UN's decision to attack Libya. But I am not blaming Obama. Yet.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:25 AM
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8. I have a feeling that if it wasn't President Obama but instead
President Bush at the helm, that most of the supporters of this would be on the opposite side of this issue. Just a feeling I have.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:27 AM
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10. I am completely certain that would be the case.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:29 AM
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13. You would be mistaken. R2P is important, and it needs to be legitimized.
States should not be allowed to massacre their own citizens under "sovereign rights."

And yes that includes the USA.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:28 AM
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12. Bush never had the full support of the UN.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:28 AM
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11. I bet if someone else rephrased this in a UN context it'd get different results.
:shrug:

And nah, no desire to vote in this push poll.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:34 AM
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16. LOL Do you understand what a push poll is?
Apparently not.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:40 AM
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17. I know this is a push poll.
"Do you want to fire missiles at Libya". No, of course I don't. I don't want missiles fired at anyone.

But do I support the UN resolution? Yes, but if it turns into a ground war, I'm out.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:42 AM
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18. Yep, I made a much more grounded poll about R2P earlier, it had much better results.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:30 AM
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15. I am opposed to wars in which we are grabbing other
country's resources ... doesn't matter to me which party the president belongs to. Imperialism is imperialism.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:43 AM
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19. I thought a Republican already was president.
:hide:
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:44 AM
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20. It depends on how the Republican president went about it.
I am not antiwar I am anti stupid war.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:50 AM
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21. I want to see Biden's secret meeting minutes with the energy companies!
Obviously Obama's motivations are the same as the last administration's. And that was precisely the same as our reason for getting involved in Kosovo. It's always about the resources!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:52 AM
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22. There are SO MANY things that you could say that about....
not the least of which is giving the RICH their tax breaks.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:05 AM
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23. I'll say this for about the fifth time on threads like this:
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 11:10 AM by jenmito
There is no comparison between Iraq and Libya. Bush lied us into war with Iraq, claiming they had WMD and we couldn't wait "for a smoking gun which could come in the form of a mushroom cloud." He also said Iraq was somehow involved in 9/11-at least it was strongly implied. And we sent in ground troops.

That's a totally different scenario from Obama getting a UN resolution with the support of the Arab League to help the people of Libya who WANTED our help. Obama didn't lie to us to send our troops into Libya (the resolution specifically states there will be NO ground troops sent in).

As a matter of fact, we were the least eager to get involved with Libya. The French are taking the lead. The Libyan people are THANKING us for finally slowing down Qaddafi's attack on them (after they stood up to him to try to get rid of him. It wasn't OUR idea to get rid of him).

Trying to compare Obama's help of the Libyan people to Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq under false pretenses is ridiculous. And I DO support what the Libyan people, the Arab League, the UN, and the U.S. are trying to do-stop the massacre of the Libyan people.
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:06 AM
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24. I don't support it...
Who or what the affiliation of someone who does it matters not to me.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:07 AM
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25. Yes, no matter...but McCain would have been there for years already
and Palin would not know where it was...


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